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Shaw Tarse
19,174 posts
72 months
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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I've got similar requirements/budget to you A Lex, but would like AWD. I've ruled out troublesome diesels and want to avoid turbos altogether.
Legacy or Outback for me (Waiting for an 04-on in budget) and these do crop up with gas.
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A lex
8,849 posts
102 months
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richardxjr said: I've got similar requirements/budget to you A Lex, but would like AWD. I've ruled out troublesome diesels and want to avoid turbos altogether.
Legacy or Outback for me (Waiting for an 04-on in budget) and these do crop up with gas. I missed legacy off the list! Have been perusing AT for them as well.
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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RP1
219 posts
19 months
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Best bet out your list would probably be the V40 (not much of a barge as you say though!) Avoid diesel 9-5's - the 2.2 is utterly gutless and rough, the 3.0 is prone to all sorts of maladies. V40 offers a decent diesel engine, generally reliable and/or cheap to fix/maintain. I've just bought an '02 T4 sport and am very impressed with it (ok so its a fair bit quicker than the diesel...) However... the T4 when driven sensibly with mixed driving will do 35mpg and will crack 40mpg on a run. Though with diesel being cheaper over there its more of a saving than here in the UK. 3k should get you a very nicely kitted out 02/03 example probably with a fair bit of change... (make sure you get a phase2 example from 2001 onwards) Couple of options: http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
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A lex
8,849 posts
102 months
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hornetrider said: Surely the obvious answer here, if a 530D is being considered, is to go shopping with 3k, pick up a nice 530i and have a 1.5k fuel chest? [manmaths]The consumption difference isn't massively different.[/manmaths] Hell - I've seen this one and its very tidy - have a 2.5k chest:  http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...Using my best man maths: Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in the Volvo at 22mpg average and 1.80per litre (or more for 98RON) = just under €700 per month. Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in XXXX (Derv) at 40mpg average and 1.40 per litre = around €280 per month. Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in XXXX (LPG) at 20mpg avrage and 0.80 per litre = around €310 per month. So a €1500 petrol war chest gets eaten up pretty quickly (<5 months at any rate). Ive got some big summer trips coming up which will increase my mileage significantly over what I already do. Ive been playing with petrol barges for the last 18months and it really is time to switch to derv.
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A lex
8,849 posts
102 months
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richardxjr said: That SAAB is lovely, but it doesnt really offer me anything over what ive got with the Volvo in terms of the engine. I am indeed going to miss out on the private bargains this time around, but ive got to get the deal done within the space of about 3 days, so it really rules out a private sale.
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Shaw Tarse
19,174 posts
72 months
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richardxjr said: I liked that, until the dash, 
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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Agree, nothing petrol will do what the Ovlov doesn't already do for you.
If it had to be diesel, I'd go for an E39.
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Fox-
9,958 posts
115 months
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A lex said: Using my best man maths:
Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in the Volvo at 22mpg average and 1.80per litre (or more for 98RON) = just under €700 per month.
Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in XXXX (Derv) at 40mpg average and 1.40 per litre = around €280 per month.
Doing 1500-1600 miles per month in XXXX (LPG) at 20mpg avrage and 0.80 per litre = around €310 per month.
So a €1500 petrol war chest gets eaten up pretty quickly (<5 months at any rate). Ive got some big summer trips coming up which will increase my mileage significantly over what I already do.
Ive been playing with petrol barges for the last 18months and it really is time to switch to derv. You won't average 40 with an older 530d. I always found it to be about 7mpg better than my 530i in any given circumstance.
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A lex
8,849 posts
102 months
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Fox- said: You won't average 40 with an older 530d. I always found it to be about 7mpg better than my 530i in any given circumstance. Best rule 530D off the list then. The V40s are a tempting choice, the 53 Sport Lux posted above is a nice car I think.
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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Trouble is, big mileage really doesn't work with barge fodder With a small budget and c.20k mpa I'd plump for something like a 407 1.6HDI.
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confused_buyer
1,875 posts
50 months
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Fox- said: You won't average 40 with an older 530d. I always found it to be about 7mpg better than my 530i in any given circumstance. Would generally agree. The auto does almost exactly 40 (well, the saloon anyway) on a motorway cruise but absolutely no more and significantly less in other driving. The manual, if you can find one, is quite a bit better and whilst it might not average 40 in mixed driving will get very close.
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confused_buyer
1,875 posts
50 months
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A lex said: Best rule 530D off the list then. The V40s are a tempting choice, the 53 Sport Lux posted above is a nice car I think. Sport Lux's are quite nice and drive well (the earlier V40's are awful but the later ones are a whole lot better). They can do 50mpg+ on a run so certain score in the economy stakes. I think you'll struggle to get £1500 for the T5 - px is more like £800 unless the dealer has a significant margin in whatever you are buying.
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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Actually, with £1500 available, I'd gas the Volvo 
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kiwifraser
4,264 posts
63 months
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richardxjr said: This weeks bargelicious purchase for me was a 2004 facelift Saab 9-5 Aero Auto estate. 117k miles with full Saab dealer service history, 3 month warranty, in great condition and loaded with options (SatNav, Sunroof, Electric Pack, Front and Rear Heated Seats). I bought it for £2000 from a dealer who took it in as a trade in from an older couple against a 58 plate 9-3. A great combination of Motorway wafty barge, decent handling on a/b roads, good performance, and practical for the family. IMO a huge amount of car for the money!  
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Shaw Tarse
19,174 posts
72 months
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richardxjr said: Actually, with £1500 available, I'd gas the Volvo But A lex is concerned about the engine going bang? Also how much is LPG in the Netherlands?
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richardxjr
3,325 posts
79 months
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^ Nice buy that Aero
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Jobbo
7,235 posts
133 months
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A lex said: OK threadists, advice needed. Im back in the UK at the start of June and will be using part of my holiday to change barges (oh how the missus was happy to hear that  ). The Volvo has to go, mainly due to mileage and MPG but also because im becoming paranoid that the engine is about to s  t its pants and I want out whilst I still can! The next barge does, unfortunately, have rather more criteria to meet, but the budget is also increased to about 3k (including whatever I get as a trade-in for the T5, which im hoping is about 1500quid). Must be: -Diesel (sob, sob I know - but im currently chucking over €800 a month down the neck of the Volvo, any diesel giving me more than 40mpg combined will halve my monthly bill, especially as the devils own juice is about 40ppl cheaper here in NL. -Estate Pref: -Less than 100k miles -<10yrs old -I need a towing hook! You've missed the Passat TDI off - even Chris Harris likes it, plenty out there with tow hooks (not that that makes them the better buys); you're going to struggle to find one below 100k miles and you need to make sure you go for the 130 and a decent spec because most were bare company cars. But for £3k for a diesel estate I think they're very hard to beat.
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GBB
1,645 posts
28 months
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Shaw Tarse said: But A lex is concerned about the engine going bang? Also how much is LPG in the Netherlands? Why the concern over the engine? any warning signs?
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