The Car Salesman's Thread

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Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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The problem there is that brand training costs dealers a lot of money. Which dealers are unwilling to invest in a new and unproven salesperson. So three month trials are normally given, by which time, if that person has met their various targets untrained, then they'll keep them on and spend the money to install their corporate chip, which is then an ongoing process.

First step is usually a week long broad overview of the brand and the range, thereafter comes a similar length manufacturer-designed sales course (as well as any such course the dealer group themselves apply), finance courses, and model-specific training usually only occurs around launches and significant facelifts - which are obviously not regular things.

For that first three months, their working info is what's available on the manufacturer's websites (both the public one you see and their intranet), in brochures and price-lists and what can be gleaned from asking colleagues questions (in response to a question having been asked of them by a customer) and from getting hands-on with the stock.

The sooner you can pick it up, the better. Thankfully, customers tend to have a pretty standard range of questions once you've heard them enough times, so that's how learning occurs - on the job. So the learning curve is close to vertical in those early stages. If they're new to sales too, then it's doubly trying for all concerned. We've all been there to varying extents and by moving brand, get to go through it again.

renmure

4,242 posts

224 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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AOK said:
is your 'current fleet' section... erm, current? That's quite an impressive collection chap! Feel free to off-load anything you may not want once you find a Disco worthy of purchase wink
yup...

apart from the Merc which morphed into a Fiat 500 on Thursday as Stage One of the "lets get a little car and a BIG car" plan. The Discovery is Stage Two of that plan. smile

ELD70

39 posts

147 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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If you are considering a Discovery 3 go onto the forum at Disco3.co.uk. Tons of advice and helpful owners to guide you.

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Well I had 2000+ people in my showroom today.....

Save Ferris

2,685 posts

213 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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markmullen said:
Well I had 2000+ people in my showroom today.....
I saw some pictures from facebook earlier, the 962 looked amazing!

BE57 TOY

2,628 posts

147 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Any Network Q guys on here?


Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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markmullen said:
Well I had 2000+ people in my showroom today.....
Explain please???

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Butter Face said:
Explain please???
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=117&t=1105495&mid=39618&nmt=Yorkshire+Big+Breakfast+-+Easter+Sunday+2012

Plus I sold one.

Balmoral

40,891 posts

248 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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You bad lad, that makes baby Jesus cry! you should have been shut.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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markmullen said:
Butter Face said:
Explain please???
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=117&t=1105495&mid=39618&nmt=Yorkshire+Big+Breakfast+-+Easter+Sunday+2012

Plus I sold one.
Very awesome, You have the best dealership TBH.

skeeterm5

3,347 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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Temo_Wil said:
But what proof of income will be required?
I have never been asked for proof of income, indeed not even my income level for my last 3 bmws

S

donutsina911

1,049 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th April 2012
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I financed my last Audi with the only proof being my driving licence - at non prime level, we ask for 2 months consecutive bank statements, pay slips, driving licence and passport...affordability, identity and traceability key to managing risk...

ImpossiblyDaft

399 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Hi
Hope its ok to do a quick "ask the pros" type job. Bought a car at the weekend from an independent garage, was a pretty "No fuss" customer really.
The car didnt even make it home without overheating, but they're over100 miles away. How likely am I to get them to sort it, and whats the best thing to suggest from their point of view?
Thanks

BigTom85

1,927 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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ImpossiblyDaft said:
Hi
Hope its ok to do a quick "ask the pros" type job. Bought a car at the weekend from an independent garage, was a pretty "No fuss" customer really.
The car didnt even make it home without overheating, but they're over100 miles away. How likely am I to get them to sort it, and whats the best thing to suggest from their point of view?
Thanks
Give him a bell and tell him what's happened, and see what he suggests? Keep it friendly at first.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Possibly a daft question these days, but did they give you any form of warranty?


MikeGTi

2,505 posts

201 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Guys - Do you any of you have any information regarding VT of a PCP deal?

I've just passed month 24 of a 36 month PCP with VW and I'm looking to get rid due to the fact that I no longer need the car.

It's pretty much bang on the mileage that it should be for the deal also.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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MikeGTi said:
Guys - Do you any of you have any information regarding VT of a PCP deal?

I've just passed month 24 of a 36 month PCP with VW and I'm looking to get rid due to the fact that I no longer need the car.

It's pretty much bang on the mileage that it should be for the deal also.
You can VT once you've repaid half the amount funded initially. Which includes the GMFV element. It's half way through the term of an HP agreement, but the deferred lump skews things.

If that was a 40% RV and there was a 20 % deposit, then that point will only occur between the final normal monthly payment and the GMFV becoming due.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Zwolf said:
If that was a 40% RV and there was a 20 % deposit, then that point will only occur between the final normal monthly payment and the GMFV becoming due.
Funny that, isn't it? smile

Was PCP invented to avoid customers VTing, or is that benefit just a lucky co-incidence?

MikeGTi

2,505 posts

201 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Zwolf said:
If that was a 40% RV and there was a 20 % deposit, then that point will only occur between the final normal monthly payment and the GMFV becoming due.
Say wha'?

I don't have the figures with me but I'm sure the deposit was 20-25%.


Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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MikeGTi said:
Zwolf said:
If that was a 40% RV and there was a 20 % deposit, then that point will only occur between the final normal monthly payment and the GMFV becoming due.
Say wha'?

I don't have the figures with me but I'm sure the deposit was 20-25%.
You need to know how much you borrowed. i.e. The price of the car minus PX and deposit (usually a combined maximum of 35%...). If the GMFV is in excess of half of that amount, you will not be able to VT.

£20,000 OTR, less £4,000 (20%) deposit/PX = £16,000 balance to finance. Of which, half of it is the GMFV at 40% of OTR price = £8,000.

Therefore no right to VT until all the monthly payments have been paid.

Find your finance agreement and substitute your own figures - also check the T's & C's of your particular contract. Depending when you took it out and the amount funded, it may or may not be a Consumer Credit Act regulated agreement, in which case again there will be no right to VT.



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