Under 10k now, over 10k in 10 years

[jbi]

A defender.. once you have rebuilt it yourself

[CDP]

jbi said:

A defender.. once you have rebuilt it yourself

There will still be loads of Defenders about in ten years.

[jbi]

CDP said:

jbi said:

A defender.. once you have rebuilt it yourself

There will still be loads of Defenders about in ten years.

indeed... but expect their value to go up once land rover start making that plastic abomination

[Jaroon]

PHers for shame. Page 5. MX 5

[Zwolf]

Jaroon said:

PHers for shame. Page 5. MX 5

Really? Which ones? Not the currently twenty year old ones that change hands for a handful of notes and a Sherbert Dip-Dab?

[bmthnick1981]

SuperVM said:

Some have mentioned the E36 M3, I'm not sure I can these significantly increasing in value, as I don't see any reason you'd buy one over an E46 M3 at the same money. At least that's what I'm hoping, as I sold my E36 M3 Evo about a year ago. There has abeen an awful lot of talk of the Z3M coupe, aren't many of them already above £10k? My picks:

Golf Rallye (or Rallye Golf)
FD RX-7
R32 GTR
mkIV Supra twin turbo
Ford Cossies (I guess only the Sierra is under £10k at the moment)
Evo 6 TME (if it isn't already)
Impreza P1
Impreza WR1
Clio V6
mk1 Focus RS (though quite why is beyond me)

I think really good E36 M3's will almost certainly be over £10k in 10 years time. Really good ones in good colours, with low miles, low amount of owners and full histories are already up for £6-£8k. I doubt E36's will never go the same way as E30's have done but there are (I believe) considerably less E36 M3's than there are E46 M3's so, over time, there will be less good E36's than E46's. Also for some, me included, an E36 is a rawer more entertaining drive than an E46 and therefore ultimately more desirable (E46 CSL excepted of course).

[cragswinter]

It'll be the 3.0 m3's that go if any of the e36's as you need that size for motorsport, I know I bang on about it but it is the main thing that drives prices up

[Wacky Racer]

[carlove]

0077 said:

This is what i was going to say - more so the 156 GTA for some reason.

Also facelifted 166 3.2 V6 Ti Saloons will appreciate i think (ironic since they dropped so much money from new), as there are only a handful, sought after and will always look timeless/attractive IMO.

Because the 156 is a bit rarer?
I can definitely see the 166 Ti being over 10k. Only 1 for sale on AutoTrader!

[Steamer]

cragswinter said:

There's been a couple of Porsche 968 clubsports for sale on ph for aaaages, now I think if you turned up to view it with 10k in a bag you might get one of them.

I've been watching them for about 12 months now, just need the space and I'll take a 10K plunge.

However, some seem to fly out, but some do seem to be having their adverts renewed time and again as you said.

Eitherway - I would say its fairly safe that 968 CS would stay over £10K.

Also - possibly a Caterham if its kept nice.

[madmover]

TVR Chimaera & Clio V6

[traffman]

Toyota AE86 , or are they allready over 10 grand?

[SMcP114]

traffman said:

Toyota AE86 , or are they allready over 10 grand?

Only over here mate, only over here

[simoid]

Evo mag did a little feature on this about a year or so ago... they had a few cars for each "budget range" that were likely to appreciate.

Can't for the life of me remember many of them, but I do remember Clio Trophy/V6

[George 500]

Agree that E34 M5s (surely much more so than E36 M3s?), R32 GT-Rs, Capris, TR6s, and good Chims are all a bit of a one way bet. Not at all convinced that any "standard" hot hatch will make it though- just look at Golf GTi Mk1s- they've had ages to get there and are completely iconic but still don't seem to have broached £10k. Also remember that Mini Coopers languished beneath 10 for years.

For the same reason is the Lotus Elise really a go-er? Look at where Elans got to (until very recently)- furthermore (for both hot hatches and these) name a volume produced four cylinder classic that has ever really made serious cash, it's a fingers of one hand job.

996s? No chance- way to many 997s coming down the line, they are the SCs of the future- destined to languish for years in the doldrums.

Other bets? PErhaps a curve ball but Talbot Sunbeam-Loti seem pretty cheap for me for what they are.

Also I reckon that a Cat D car could be a good long term bet- I suspect that a long distant accident will become much less important in the mind of a classic buyer than a nearly new consumer- who cares if it had a cosmetic shunt 20 years back?

Unfortunately I think the real money is a little further up the tree- XJ220s, Aston Vantage Zagatos, Testarossas and the like... and hopefully Alfa RZs!

[white_goodman]

If clean and low mileage:

Classic Saab 900 Turbos (now that Saab has gone - they seem quite good value at the moment)
VW Corrado VR6 (no-one seems to be making V6s coupes any more)
Classic Rover mini Cooper (late models if clean, like on the TG special)

[98C4S]

Porsche 968 CS or Sport
BMW 635CSi


The only ones I would agree with in this thread

[Liokault]

98C4S said:

Porsche 968 CS or Sport
BMW 635CSi


The only ones I would agree with in this thread

Can you get a 968cs under 10k?

[2thumbs]

bmthnick1981 said:

SuperVM said:

Some have mentioned the E36 M3, I'm not sure I can these significantly increasing in value, as I don't see any reason you'd buy one over an E46 M3 at the same money. At least that's what I'm hoping, as I sold my E36 M3 Evo about a year ago. There has abeen an awful lot of talk of the Z3M coupe, aren't many of them already above £10k? My picks:

Golf Rallye (or Rallye Golf)
FD RX-7
R32 GTR
mkIV Supra twin turbo
Ford Cossies (I guess only the Sierra is under £10k at the moment)
Evo 6 TME (if it isn't already)
Impreza P1
Impreza WR1
Clio V6
mk1 Focus RS (though quite why is beyond me)

I think really good E36 M3's will almost certainly be over £10k in 10 years time. Really good ones in good colours, with low miles, low amount of owners and full histories are already up for £6-£8k. I doubt E36's will never go the same way as E30's have done but there are (I believe) considerably less E36 M3's than there are E46 M3's so, over time, there will be less good E36's than E46's. Also for some, me included, an E36 is a rawer more entertaining drive than an E46 and therefore ultimately more desirable (E46 CSL excepted of course).

An E36 M will never match the values of E30 Ms, but they will follow them as their value increases. As the E30 gets further out of reach attentions will fall to the next model, & as a result E36 values will increase.
Then It'll be the E46s turn. You can see this trend with most cars as they get older. (If you are as old as me anyway!)

I think all the BMW M cars will be desirable just because of what they are. much like the Ford RS cars.

Edited by 2thumbs on Friday 13th January 09:12

[cragswinter]

Liokault said:

Can you get a 968cs under 10k?

Have you read the thread or just skipped to the back page?!

I'd alson hazard a guess on the Clio v6, phase 2's are hovering close & there are still some good'uns out there. Classic of the future for definite!