RE: Detroit show: the NSX is back

RE: Detroit show: the NSX is back

Tuesday 10th January 2012

Detroit show: the NSX is back

New Honda NSX revealed and stakes an instant claim on 'best in show' at Detroit



The Honda NSX is a true PH hero if ever there was one, so confirmation from Detroit that Honda will build a new NSX has to be news to cheer us all. They’ve sure kept us waiting though, the various supercar concepts over the years whetting appetites for a successor to the original all-aluminium NSX that so famously carried the personal touch of Ayrton Senna.

HSV concept morphed into Super GT racer
HSV concept morphed into Super GT racer
The new NSX, unveiled under the Acura brand that Honda will be expanding to new markets (but not Europe) over coming years, continues the original’s pioneering, tech-heavy approach, but with a very 21st-century twist. It’s also a very different car to the front-engined, V10-powered HSV concept originally mooted as the ‘new NSX’ that lives on as a super-cool Super GT racer.

Inevitably that means hybrid technology. But take heart – the electric motor is to supercars what the turbo was a few generations ago, and Honda isn’t about to dilute the NSX’s hardcore appeal.

This being a Japanese supercar, there’s no shortage of not-so-snappy acronym action to describe the technology, Honda’s new drivetrain announced under the banner (deep breath) Sport Hybrid Super Handling All Wheel Drive, or Sport Hybrid SH-AWD.

New NSX is a sharp looker
New NSX is a sharp looker
And, like the original NSX, the new one gets a mid-mounted VTEC (yo) V6 petrol engine – direct-injection and a dual-clutch gearbox with an integrated electric motor among its ‘next generation’ features. Additional electric motors up front deliver on the AWD bit of the chassis tech and open up all sorts of exciting opportunities for delivering on what Honda boss – and original NSX development man back in the day - Takanobu Ito describes as “fun to drive spirit.”

A ‘bilateral torque adjustable control system’ offers torque vectoring of the sort we’re already familiar with, but Honda also boasts that the motors will be able to generate reverse torque during cornering for an effect not unlike McLaren’s Brake Steer system on the MP4-12C. Can the NSX still be considered a purist machine even with all this tech? Ito says yes, declaring, “The NSX will make the driver one with the car to enhance dynamic driving abilities without getting in the way.”

NSX very much a new-school supercar
NSX very much a new-school supercar
Promisingly Honda also says "While most supercars opt for brute force delivered from a large engine, the NSX Concept champions the true racing philosophy of an extremely favourable power-to-weight ratio."

No figures for power output, weight or performance have yet been revealed (though around 300hp of petrol power and 100hp-or-so of electric shove is expected). But if Honda is true to its word it could mark a significant moment for supercars and an end to the horsepower arms race. Some would argue that’s what supercars should be about and it’s safe to say a hybrid Aventador is probably some way off but, as a mainstream manufacturer, Honda needs to be able to play the eco card too.

When? Honda’s playing coy, saying merely 'within the next three years'. We say it can’t come soon enough.

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Discussion

DazBock

Original Poster:

825 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Awesome!

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

151 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Nice!
I like that, I'll take it. In Metallic orange? or maybe bright red?
Just hope it sounds as good as the 'old' NSX smile

lazyitus

19,926 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Ooooooooh cloud9

Yum.

MogulBoy

2,936 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Bring it on.

P.S. Lotus will have its work cut out for it if it is to provide a more compelling Esprit alternative.

andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Looks great. Shame it doesn't have the purity of the original with all of the technology they seem to be cramming into it, but should make it a great car to use.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I don't like it boxedin

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

184 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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About time the Audi R8 received a refresh, it was starting to look a bit 2006.



wink

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Honda are going to end the "power wars" with this? IF it even materializes how light can it be with AWD and electric motors?

PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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V6 Hybrid.
If it's more than £70k I think they may be pushing their luck.

When you get to £100k for super cars I'd personally be looking over at Italy and a baby Lamborghini. One that when you hit the throttle it makes a noise that releases the caveman hormones.

Not a whiney Honda engine and a big remote control car engine.

Visially it looks a whole lot more interesting than the old one did though.


Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Can I please be the first to say: "Why don't they stick a V8 in it?"

Only joking of course, a V6 hybrid is actually a more interesting prospect, and I think it looks great. Undeniably R8-ish, but that's not a bad thing, and hopefully will compete with GTR and R8 rather than showy Italian alternatives anyway.

Inverness

547 posts

179 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I really like this concept, and whether we like it or not hybrid technology is the way to go for high performance cars (for now anyway).

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Dagnut said:
Honda are going to end the "power wars" with this? IF it even materializes how light can it be with AWD and electric motors?
AWD can be achieved with less weight using electric motors instead of heavy drive-shafts and diffs. Also means you can get rid of transmission tunnels.

y2blade

56,141 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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cool Being a Honda it will be as good as it looks yes

MRCC

337 posts

158 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Very, very smart. Build it soon Honda as it will do for you what the R8 did for Audi.

Mr.CC.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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PSBuckshot said:
I don't like it boxedin
Nor do I, looks a bit lambo-ish.

PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Lambo'ish?

I'd say it looks like the love child of senior designers at VAG & Mazda if ever I saw it.

Front bumper and nose is pure Mazda. DRL's are VAG. Rear air duct "blades" pure VAG.

About the only thing I'd say was Lambo'ish was the door mirrors which look far too "silly" for a Honda designed by VAG.

gezkc

157 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I like! cool
From what I've read, the Super handling system works really well so I'm sure the NSX will handle as well as it looks. With 400hp and relatively low weight, it should shift too.

CBR JGWRR

6,541 posts

150 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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The old one looked better from the rear for certain.

monkey11477

128 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Video albeit in GT5 form here http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d6188.html

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I will be very surprised if this doesn't end up like all Hondas.

"Great chassis, great build quality, needs more power".