RE: Tell me I'm wrong: Honda Civic Type R (EP3)
Discussion
I'm thoroughly enjoying driving mine 6 months after purchase, cant really understand the 'lack of torque comments' unless your comparing to a high power diesel, it's no worse off than any other 2l petrol I've driven.
Given the price these cars are going for I find them to be a great all-rounder.
Given the price these cars are going for I find them to be a great all-rounder.
Baryonyx said:
"" Similarly, it's not a car I'd recommend for someone who wants to pootle to the shops and have the occasional blast down a B road in, because it the Civic Type R demands that you drive it hard everywhere. For a petrolhead though, that is perhaps one of it's most charming qualities; namely that it inspires the driver to give it some leather. ""
Cant agree with this, Had mine 7 years or so now and i pootle both ways!
to and from work im usually sat around the 2-3k rpm mark only!
Its nice to give it some welly now and then on the commute to overtake any 40mph brigade though oh and then there are weekends
but i think its a great everyday car IF you don't commute via motorway anyway
"" Similarly, it's not a car I'd recommend for someone who wants to pootle to the shops and have the occasional blast down a B road in, because it the Civic Type R demands that you drive it hard everywhere. For a petrolhead though, that is perhaps one of it's most charming qualities; namely that it inspires the driver to give it some leather. ""
Cant agree with this, Had mine 7 years or so now and i pootle both ways!
to and from work im usually sat around the 2-3k rpm mark only! Its nice to give it some welly now and then on the commute to overtake any 40mph brigade though oh and then there are weekends
but i think its a great everyday car IF you don't commute via motorway anywayMartin_Hx said:
Cant agree with this, Had mine 7 years or so now and i pootle both ways! to and from work im usually sat around the 2-3k rpm mark only!
Its nice to give it some welly now and then on the commute to overtake any 40mph brigade though oh and then there are weekends but i think its a great everyday car IF you don't commute via motorway anyway
I totally agree. One of the great points of the car for me is that it's a joy to just short shift when trundling around; even below VTEC it's still a 2.0L engine in a reasonably small car so it's hardly lacking in performance. to and from work im usually sat around the 2-3k rpm mark only! Its nice to give it some welly now and then on the commute to overtake any 40mph brigade though oh and then there are weekends
but i think its a great everyday car IF you don't commute via motorway anywayMy commute has about 15 miles of fast DCW and I don't find the relatively short gearing an issue at all. Holding 80-85mph is fine, though I appreciate it would be a bit of a shock coming from a luxobarge with tall gearing.
otolith said:
It pulls cleanly, if not hard, from 30mph in top gear, so even a taxi driver could drive it.
Had a Mk7 Golf diesel (think 1.6) with a 5-speed box as the holiday hire car this year. Decent poke for a small diesel when the turbo was on-song, but below 2k it was sluggish and unresponsive, and below 1,500 it genuinely felt like it was going to cut out, regardless of how smooth I tried to be. Which because of the modern 'economy' gearing meant I used 2nd gear in town a lot and 3rd/4th on the country roads. Which sort-of defeated the object of the tall gearing and small-ish diesel engine...(anyway, point being I realised half-way through the holiday that I was often 2 gears below where I'd be in the FD2!)
Really did make me wonder why diesels are the wunderkind of the modern car era - they DON'T have anywhere near the flexibility/drivability of a decent petrol.
EP3 is a great car even now in 2015. By far the best type r so far (dont know about the new turbo one). Ep3 is light and so agile,its an animal in the dry and sling a good exhaust on it,its a diffrent car altogether. valve clearances are my downfall,they need doing but as for engine n box i havnt heard of one engine blowing in a ep3. folk say their no good on fuel but cruise in 6th doing 70 and youll be impressed with mpg. Vtec loves oil,prepare to use oil when using vtec alot,other than that the ep3 is same as any car. love it....nighthawk black by far best polished up.
Edited by chelseablue96 on Saturday 4th April 21:40
chelseablue96 said:
EP3 is a great car even now in 2015. By far the best type r so far (dont know about the new turbo one). Ep3 is light and so agile,its an animal in the dry and sling a good exhaust on it,its a diffrent car altogether. valve clearances are my downfall,they need doing but as for engine n box i havnt heard of one engine blowing in a ep3. folk say their no good on fuel but cruise in 6th doing 70 and youll be impressed with mpg. Vtec loves oil,prepare to use oil when using vtec alot,other than that the ep3 is same as any car. love it....nighthawk black by far best polished up.
I blew an engine in an ep3.Edited by chelseablue96 on Saturday 4th April 21:40
chelseablue96 said:
as for engine n box i havnt heard of one engine blowing in a ep3.
They do get blown up, but only through people not bothering to check oil levels and continuing to drive even after the VTEC has stopped working. I know someone that used VTEC as the oil level indication, time to top up when VTEC stops working. Unsurprisingly it ran the bottom end after enough of this.chelseablue96 said:
well any engine would break with no oil lol. using common sense,if u pay hard earned cash for something youll look after it wouldnt you? i do and ive never heard of vtec failure in any ep3 (when its got oil in) lol VTEC ROCKS Can anyone help with valve clearances?
It's a pretty straightforward job to do the valve clearances on the K20, it should only take about half an hour. What specifically are you having problems with? There are loads of guides on the net, and the proper service manual is pretty easy to find ("02_03_EP3_MANUAL.pdf"). Make sure you have a new cam cover gasket, new spark plug seals and a tube of good quality RTV gasket sealant before you start - the rubber hardens as it gets older so reusing the gaskets is just inviting an oil leak, especially the spark plug seals.
I had an EP3 for 3 1/2 years and loved it.
The car required commitment to drive quickly but then when you did you were rewarded with a brilliant handling and engine car.
The Civic Type R is head and shoulders better than the Clio and Leon's I've also spent time in. If you wanted a comfortable compromise then the Leon was good and if you wanted a cheaper and more pointy but slower car then the Clio was it.
No car in its class could get the Civic for pure noise, with a CAI and a different exhaust setup it is such an amazing sounding car.
I warmed my car up and then abused the heck out of it and I didn't have a single problem. It's still a brilliant car today.
The car required commitment to drive quickly but then when you did you were rewarded with a brilliant handling and engine car.
The Civic Type R is head and shoulders better than the Clio and Leon's I've also spent time in. If you wanted a comfortable compromise then the Leon was good and if you wanted a cheaper and more pointy but slower car then the Clio was it.
No car in its class could get the Civic for pure noise, with a CAI and a different exhaust setup it is such an amazing sounding car.
I warmed my car up and then abused the heck out of it and I didn't have a single problem. It's still a brilliant car today.
i owed a saxo vts it was quick yes but nothing like the type r ep3. then i bought a mgzr 160vvc,that was quick 70-100 when vvc worked but then after 110 struggled to pull upto 130. in the past ive owned xr4 xr3i xr2 etc renault 5 gt turbo but the ep3 just has something more about it. vtec sounding like hondas f1 engine could have something to do with it i dunno, only glad i bought one finally and got it at the right time in my life as i pay 350 a yr fully comp to insure her which is ace. to be honest i topped up the oil when i bought the car and it hasnt dropped abit as yet. my exhaust is blowing slightly,i think near front. the car does have a full exhaust system on it so im sure its blowing at front connection, maybe needs a gasket i dont know yet until i check underneath. also i want valve clearances doing and timing chain check. took the car to skegness today round the windy b roads and car was ace, handles very well in the dry i must admit. i was playing with this jag and around the bends the heavy jag was left for dead. love the ep3, i really do.
Edited by chelseablue96 on Sunday 5th April 22:15
Mr2Mike said:
It's a pretty straightforward job to do the valve clearances on the K20, it should only take about half an hour. What specifically are you having problems with?
There are loads of guides on the net, and the proper service manual is pretty easy to find ("02_03_EP3_MANUAL.pdf"). Make sure you have a new cam cover gasket, new spark plug seals and a tube of good quality RTV gasket sealant before you start - the rubber hardens as it gets older so reusing the gaskets is just inviting an oil leak, especially the spark plug seals.
thanks buddy. trouble is i have no tools!There are loads of guides on the net, and the proper service manual is pretty easy to find ("02_03_EP3_MANUAL.pdf"). Make sure you have a new cam cover gasket, new spark plug seals and a tube of good quality RTV gasket sealant before you start - the rubber hardens as it gets older so reusing the gaskets is just inviting an oil leak, especially the spark plug seals.
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