RE: Time for Tea? Vic Elford and the Targa Florio

RE: Time for Tea? Vic Elford and the Targa Florio

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Geoffcapes

695 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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In todays world of Health and Safety, that is absolutely bonkers!

Imagine seeing a VW Camper van parked up half on a straight at Monaco.
Just wouldn't happen.

Those guys were absolutely nuts. Legends every one of them!

DeltaEvo2

870 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I love the fact that the old men are playing cards (scopa?) while this mental race is going on with some fantastic cars, love it. Saw a couple of Alfa GTAs in there and a Lancia Fulvia? Might be wrong...

alexpa

644 posts

173 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Brilliant! That makes up for the Harris Macca F1 vid that was taken down before i got home to see it with speakers.

Did the owner of the F1 'M1 GTR' say "No"? Don't be afraid chap. There only cars. It's all fun.

supersarbs

61 posts

154 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Not normally a prolific poster here, but that video was rather compelling.

Feels like alot longer than 40 years ago. and certainly could never feel the same in the day and age.

Thanks Pistonheads.


Mike Rob

1,017 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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alexpa said:
Brilliant! That makes up for the Harris Macca F1 vid that was taken down before i got home to see it with speakers.

Did the owner of the F1 'M1 GTR' say "No"? Don't be afraid chap. There only cars. It's all fun.
Where was Ed?

Pingman

406 posts

202 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Great vid, thanks for putting it on my radar.

The nostalgia of that is immense, would be amazing to see that race reincarnated in the modern day, but it will of course never happen as the H&S adjustments to the make the course safe would be humongous! But just image smile

Mike Rob

1,017 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Best video I have seen on here for a long time - many thanks

Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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1972 Ferrari steamrollered Sports car racing - 3 cars at every race and three at the factory being rebuilt for the next race. The car was a Ferrari 312B F1 with a sportscar body and detuned engine.
And what a driver lineup - Ronnie Peterson, Mario Andretti, Clay Reggazoni, Jacky Ickx and that's without bothering to look it up
Sandro Munari was the best non-Finn rally driver at the time - contracted to Lancia so what a stroke of genius to put him in the Targa... and Helmut Marko? One of his greatest drives before a career cruelly cut short by eye injuries just a few weeks later at the French Grand Prix.

Nino Vacarella hardly ever raced outside Sicily - but how quick was he on the Targa?

Them wuz the days!!

ArnageWRC

2,069 posts

160 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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A legendary and vastly underrated driver!! Last Brit to win the Monte, then a week later won the Daytona 24 Hours.....

My favourite drivers are those who try everything - and don't specialise!!

Numeric

1,400 posts

152 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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So you brake late for Stowe, avoid the children, overtake the sheep....

The last we saw of this sort of speed on the open road was the last year of Group B I guess.

I kind of see why this doesn't happen today and Rallying has been slowed, but wow these were amazing times. Mind you as a driver to be giving it the beans especially in practice with not a hint of safety equipement for miles in any direction - well I tip my hat!

Veeayt

3,139 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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What an amazing video! Made my day. Thank you Riggers!

Cheib

23,288 posts

176 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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So cool it hurts. Brilliant!

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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We're now running late for the school run! I couldn't stop watching it!!!

TEKNOPUG

18,975 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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"And then last year, ha, I hit a local"

hehe

cookie1600

2,128 posts

162 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Fantastic stuff from an era when men were men, and small animals were afraid...

Stuff the health and safety brigade, lets have an international road/street racing series like this with an uncapped top formula!

Amizade

284 posts

226 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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One of the best posts/threads, I have seen on the internet!

Many thanks for the DVD recommendation.

DanDC5

18,818 posts

168 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I'm off to waste a productive day on youtube now...

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Real Men.

One of fav cars is 908 Hillclimbe which was Awesome here.

Mark-C

5,150 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Lovely - thanks for this thumbup


firebird350

323 posts

181 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I love "The Speed Merchants" - a tremendous piece of work filmed in the contemporary and an object lesson in how to capture this 'window in time' element which paints such a colourful, anecdotal insight into the race and racing driver legends we now revere and wonder about.

As well as the obvious attraction of period racing footage, the story includes the quiet, contemplative and often very private, philosophical thoughts (and occasional doubts) of the various drivers of the era (Vic Elford, Mario Andretti, etc), given both trackside and in drivers' homes.

All of this adds up to that feeling of 'being there' when you watch this film, something which basic racing coverage itself doesn't ever really achieve.

The "Speed Merchants", in some ways, represents the essence of what Steve McQueen sought (and on the whole succeeded) to capture in "Le Mans".

The slightly haunting piano solo which leads into the film sets the tone for what follows - a very thoughtful production which stays with you after you've watched it, leaving you back there in 1972!