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crostonian

1,184 posts

41 months

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Big deal! Nurburgring bores me rigid, its as though its the be all and end all of all modern car development. If you want a car to drive there and nowhere else then fair enough. If it shuts down then I for one will be happy. I'm sick of reading about lap times etc, I don't care. Go and find some real roads, they are out there, don't give up please.

Fireblade69

474 posts

72 months

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crostonian said:
Big deal! Nurburgring bores me rigid, its as though its the be all and end all of all modern car development. If you want a car to drive there and nowhere else then fair enough. If it shuts down then I for one will be happy. I'm sick of reading about lap times etc, I don't care. Go and find some real roads, they are out there, don't give up please.
Nice!

Point me in the direction of some one way roads with crash barriers, safety personnel, handling challenges, no speed limits and all within the law then please.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

73 months

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crostonian said:
Big deal! Nurburgring bores me rigid, its as though its the be all and end all of all modern car development. If you want a car to drive there and nowhere else then fair enough. If it shuts down then I for one will be happy. I'm sick of reading about lap times etc, I don't care. Go and find some real roads, they are out there, don't give up please.
Have you not taken your tablet today? biggrin

redgriff500

6,931 posts

132 months

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Fireblade69 said:
Nice!

Point me in the direction of some one way roads with crash barriers, safety personnel, handling challenges, no speed limits and all within the law then please.
Isle Of Man - closer and cheaper.

If you go with a reasonable sized group they will (or did for us a few yrs ago) close the Mountain Section so you get the complete road.

I'm unsure why the Isle Of Man gets overlooked as Europe keeps tightening its once relaxed attitude to speed and the Ring is a financial disaster if you make a mistake.

EDIT - OK I'm starting to see why it's less popular, ferry crossing in the summer is £220 upwards

Edited by redgriff500 on Friday 20th January 21:07

PascalBuyens

2,545 posts

151 months

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crostonian said:
Big deal! Nurburgring bores me rigid, its as though its the be all and end all of all modern car development. If you want a car to drive there and nowhere else then fair enough. If it shuts down then I for one will be happy. I'm sick of reading about lap times etc, I don't care. Go and find some real roads, they are out there, don't give up please.
Blasphemy!!!
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Munich

928 posts

65 months

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Mermaid said:
TankRizzo said:
Was that written by Dale? Worrying times for him if this goes ahead.
Sounds like him.
Dale is the name at the bottom of the article.

Mermaid

12,492 posts

40 months

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Munich said:
Mermaid said:
TankRizzo said:
Was that written by Dale? Worrying times for him if this goes ahead.
Sounds like him.
Dale is the name at the bottom of the article.
Missed that, still can't see it - Specsavers.

RDMcG

7,044 posts

76 months

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Greed,incompetence and carelessness are ruining the most unique track on the planet. Its a tragedy for every petrolhead who has been or who might consider going. Very depressing news indeed. Its not just the track - its the unique community of locals and repeat visitors who bring an informality and friendliness to the place. The monster facilities are at odds with a rural area, and were ill-conceived. I hope some sanity returns...........

Dale Lomas

135 posts

24 months

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Aha... Mr McG! We're still having fun here, of course, it's just the big concrete stuff down the road that's a bit boring. I have about six free tickets to the new museum, and I've still not gone. That's the worst kind of hypocrisy, but I might fix it this weekend (if the place is open, of course).

Latest radio interview I was listening to was talking to some politician (a green, I think) who actually wanted to bulldoze the rollercoaster and ringºboluevard ASAP.

Interestingly he was also saying the local government would open the lease up to new tenders if no solution could be found soon.

RyanOakley

15 posts

24 months

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I have always dreamed of going round the nurburg i just hope that i can buy myself a decent car and get over there before its no longer available to do! frown

Matt UK

7,517 posts

69 months

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What I find staggering is that nobody thought this was a good idea! Nobody!! It was flawed from the start!

xcat

126 posts

60 months

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Isn't it ironic that the whole place was built, way back when, to ease unemployment and poverty in the region??? And of course to showcase the might of the German Car Industry.


cragswinter

6,300 posts

65 months

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Evening Dale thumbup directed here off your FB, missed PH today-hope all's well with the family.

Funnily (sic) enough I just mentioned the other day to a mate, I'm bringing him out at the end of march. He's a first timer & I told him he needs to get out there & experience it while he still can. I know TF isn't to everyone's tastes, but regardless of the delays, accidents & price increases it still can't be beaten for petrol head heaven cloud9

I hope it doesn't get any worse out there, not just for purely selfish reasons but for all the people who make their living in the vibrant & exciting community surrounding the place.

I noticed Darren's dates aren't exactly the best this year, I'll do my best to get out to one of them but it does make you wonder just why they seem so determined to alienate the general paying public?

R1_NUR

550 posts

119 months

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2500 laps in.

I've gone off the place due to poor driving, and poor management and overcrowding.


Shade

73 posts

37 months

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I was going to go this summer with a mate. I may only drive a fiesta zs but to a proper petrolhead that doesn't matter. Gutted they've done this. Now I really can't see the justification in spending all that money.

FRA53R

496 posts

37 months

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From a business point of view it's difficult. They feel that they are trying to make the best of the situation taking on highly paid contracts by big car makers which pays them a serious amount of money. However they are neglecting their initial source of income, the tourist, who comes not only to set a lap but investigate the legendary circuit itself.

Whilst the tourist will not pay much at one time they will at a rate of (Hopefully) 15% return year on year. The amount of money paid by tourists over a year if managed properly will most likely match if not supercede that of the few manafacturers that will spend the necessary amount to block off a few days, especially as the screw tightens on development costs, which will stop the frittering of money on such things for cheaper cars.
(I state this hopefully as I have no real facts to back it up)

I do hope that the current management decides to relinquish their control over the circuit before they drive it either into further debt by suffocating the enthusiast or by giving it to a single manufacturer entirely *cough Herr Porsche cough*

fingersprice

41 posts

23 months

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Well there goes my planned trip there for the end of July by the sound of it!!

Looks like we may have to revisit the idea for the Spa-Francorchamps track days again mad

cooldude27uk

40 posts

49 months

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mrmr96 said:
Will the "prestige" of a "good ring time" for a sports car become less valued by car buyers if they can't actually take such cars to said track?!
That is actually a very good point... take the public interest out of the track and the prestige of a good ring time is meaningless. They need to find a happy medium....

MattCSLnut

35 posts

23 months

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106 gti said:
Talk about "Biting the hand that feeds them".
+1 banghead
I've been going since 2004 (Ze Gut Old Dayz) sadly things have changed for the worst since RingMafia took over the controls.
I wonder if that BIG accident last October whistlehttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... had anything to do with the latest bad news and fewer TF days ?

varsas

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3,102 posts

71 months

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EDLT said:
mrmr96 said:
Will the "prestige" of a "good ring time" for a sports car become less valued by car buyers if they can't actually take such cars to said track?!
It was a pointless statistic anyway and led to cars with suspension that is far too stiff for the road. Even the 0-60 time was more relevant than how quickly a hatchback can be driven around a track that most Germans won't visit, never mind the rest of us.
Couldn't agree less.

My V8 XJR had the same 0-60 time as my friends E36 M3, so from that statistic alone they where as fast as each other. Top speed and 1/4 mile time would have been about the same too but they where utterly different to drive, one was a big luxo barge with a massive engine, the other more like a race car for the road.

The 'Ring time would have been alone in showing that because it takes into account the cornering and braking abilities of the car.

If you'd driven the ring you would know it's not like a race track, it really is very similar to a normal road which is what makes it pretty much unique.

I don't buy that the 'ring is the reason modern sports cars have stuff suspension, it's mostly fashion. People want big wheels and a very controlled chassis.

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