RE: Driven: Porsche Panamera GTS
Discussion
For all the talk about it being pig ugly to look at, the same was said about the Cayenne too when new, but do Porsche care?! They're selling very well and combined now outsell the 'sport-cars' so if people were voting with their feet and avoiding them like the plague then maybe Porsche design would have to adapt. But they're not, so to Porsche its a winning formula. These are cash-generator models to be used to pump more investment into their core 911/Cayman/Boxster models.
Regards,
Mr. CC.
Regards,
Mr. CC.
Beyond Rational said:
kambites said:
anything fast said:
LOUDEST COUGH IN THE WORLD... BMW M5.. END OF.
It's a different class of car - the M5 is a lot smaller and less luxurious than the Panamera. Porsche were quite clear on marketing it as a 7-series competitor, although I did always wonder how ambitious that was until Garlick's comment earlier in this thread.
Johnboy Mac said:
RichB said:
Chaps, is the 7 series the one that's got the boot sort of grafted on as a bit of an afterthought? If so it's a bit of a munter itself isn't it?
the last one, however.... (and more so with the old 6 series)
So many comments, and I haven't seen anyone ask the obvious question:
If Porsche really are marketing this as a track version of the Panamera, why did they made it more like the Cayenne GTS instead of the Carrera GTS, i.e. use the bodyshell of the 4S but retain the RWD (and smaller mass) of the S, + add a few hp.
Surely it would make it a better track car. But I guess Porsche figured there was a sweet spot of people who like to look track-minded but are too scared of RWD and also can't afford the Turbo.
I understand that the Cayenne GTS was 4WD, after all, every Cayenne is, but to market the AWD model as the track one instead of the RWD, especially given how it is in the 911, I see this as nothing more than marketing, which is sad.
If Porsche really are marketing this as a track version of the Panamera, why did they made it more like the Cayenne GTS instead of the Carrera GTS, i.e. use the bodyshell of the 4S but retain the RWD (and smaller mass) of the S, + add a few hp.
Surely it would make it a better track car. But I guess Porsche figured there was a sweet spot of people who like to look track-minded but are too scared of RWD and also can't afford the Turbo.
I understand that the Cayenne GTS was 4WD, after all, every Cayenne is, but to market the AWD model as the track one instead of the RWD, especially given how it is in the 911, I see this as nothing more than marketing, which is sad.
RichB said:
Can't take a joke these E owners, sorry BMW owners. Must have touched a raw nerve 
Always looks perculiar to me.
well considering you were talking about a new panemera, i assumed you were talking about the current 7 series, guess that was wrong. i also said the older one (i.e. the one you just posted a piccie of) does look odd, so i'm agreeing with youAlways looks perculiar to me.
Edited by RichB on Friday 27th January 19:15
LayZ said:
It doesn't photograph well. Get one in the right colour and in the flesh it can look very imposing.
+1Launch photos made me cringe.
But have started to see a lot more of these around the streets of London and dark colours with the smaller wheel option really work for me.
Si
That smaller wheel option being 18" BTW; although they do look like 15's on the Panamera
MRCC said:
For all the talk about it being pig ugly to look at, the same was said about the Cayenne too when new, but do Porsche care?! They're selling very well and combined now outsell the 'sport-cars' so if people were voting with their feet and avoiding them like the plague then maybe Porsche design would have to adapt. But they're not, so to Porsche its a winning formula. These are cash-generator models to be used to pump more investment into their core 911/Cayman/Boxster models.
Regards,
Mr. CC.
In Hong Kong my recent visits to my local OPC confirm my daily observations that both Panamera (and Cayenne) are becoming ever more popular and satisfy a demand here for those moving up from dull offerings from Merc and BMW and who want and can afford a high performance high end GT. Being a new ( fashionable) entrant also helps in this market. I personallly think the Panamera looks great, but suspect a steep depreciation curve - in which case we can perhaps look forward to some serious low miler bargains from HK in a year or two.Regards,
Mr. CC.
Yes I'm in agreement with the more recent posts. Porsche are right on the money with the styling of the Panamera. It looks impressive, characterful, and purposeful, unlike the cardigan-toting M5 and the juvenile and contrived Aston Rapide. and who cares if it's ugly? you can't see it when you're driving it anyway.
Almost makes me cry to see the price of these though. I'll bet that retail price here in Australia will approach $400,000 (GBP270k). Why so many people migrate here from the UK's beyond me
Almost makes me cry to see the price of these though. I'll bet that retail price here in Australia will approach $400,000 (GBP270k). Why so many people migrate here from the UK's beyond me
MagicalTrevor said:
Considering the advantage Walter would've had relating to previous experience of the car and (I'm assuming) the track, I think that Riggers did a sterling job of 'staying with him'! 
I don't get the looks bashing. Yes, it's not a typical 4-door sedan. It carries the 911 shape in to a full-size car. But whether it's shaped perfectly for you or not, looking past all of that brings you the finest driving luxury sedan of all time. The competitors mentioned in the brief don't come close in handling, braking, steering feel and all of the other factors that separate a big-motored car from a fine driving car. There's nothing like this out there. Not even close.
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