RE: Kuwait debut for finished Aston Martin V12 Zagato
Discussion
£330k, seriously? Correct me if I'm wrong, but why does a dubious restyle make it nearly £200k costlier than a DBS or V12 Vantage? I already know the answer though - rarity. The deeply insecure super-rich car collector is always looking over his / her shoulder, and therefore has to have something that very few others will have!
MrTappets said:
Aston seem to really be taking their eye of the off the ball lately. Every two years they restyle one of their two basic cars that have now been with us for almost a decade (DB9 and Vantage), call it a new model and put it on sale along with all the other outdated and superseded versions. The engine in this should have been replaced about three years ago, the 'new' Virage should have been a DB9 mid-life restyle and the Rapide should have been an estate (fixes the DB9's four-seats-that-are-too-small problem by offering four seats that are too small in a slightly uglier and even slower package)
Apologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Cygnet.
I'm a little confused as to why you give the New 911 "10" on the P H O'meter yet slate Aston for not coming up with something newApologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Cygnet.
Edited by MrTappets on Monday 30th January 13:18
Cabal722 said:
I think they should have made the original like this. What a nice looking car to be stranded in at the side of the road.
Oh you are so funny. What an amazing sense of humour you have. Oh how I laugh at your pathetic idea of a joke. So everything British is useless and unrelaible. Well move out of the UK and slag of some other country or company. If not do some research or go and build a Gilbern.BelfastBoy said:
£330k, seriously? Correct me if I'm wrong, but why does a dubious restyle make it nearly £200k costlier than a DBS or V12 Vantage? I already know the answer though - rarity. The deeply insecure super-rich car collector is always looking over his / her shoulder, and therefore has to have something that very few others will have!
And that's exactly why it's being unveiled in the Middle East.
d child for a coming together of Aston & TVR, May not be a bad thing as nearly ALL the Astons look the same.B10 said:
Cabal722 said:
I think they should have made the original like this. What a nice looking car to be stranded in at the side of the road.
Oh you are so funny. What an amazing sense of humour you have. Oh how I laugh at your pathetic idea of a joke. So everything British is useless and unrelaible. Well move out of the UK and slag of some other country or company. If not do some research or go and build a Gilbern.Cabal722 said:
B10 said:
Cabal722 said:
I think they should have made the original like this. What a nice looking car to be stranded in at the side of the road.
Oh you are so funny. What an amazing sense of humour you have. Oh how I laugh at your pathetic idea of a joke. So everything British is useless and unrelaible. Well move out of the UK and slag of some other country or company. If not do some research or go and build a Gilbern.So do you have experience of sitting at the side of a road in an Aston Martin Vantage V12 or V8?
AM Zagato's have always been outside of the Aston Martin corporate look. It is a more dramatic design than the standard car and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It is satisfying a market for more individuality in cars, almost back to the coachbuilt era. If people buy it and it makes money what's the problem here. More power to Aston's elbow I say, and the coffers of UK Plc benefit too-what's to dislike?
AMV8Nick said:
MrTappets said:
Aston seem to really be taking their eye of the off the ball lately. Every two years they restyle one of their two basic cars that have now been with us for almost a decade (DB9 and Vantage), call it a new model and put it on sale along with all the other outdated and superseded versions. The engine in this should have been replaced about three years ago, the 'new' Virage should have been a DB9 mid-life restyle and the Rapide should have been an estate (fixes the DB9's four-seats-that-are-too-small problem by offering four seats that are too small in a slightly uglier and even slower package)
Apologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Cygnet.
I'm a little confused as to why you give the New 911 "10" on the P H O'meter yet slate Aston for not coming up with something newApologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Cygnet.
Edited by MrTappets on Monday 30th January 13:18
To my mind Aston's product plan would be like Lambo still selling the original Murcie and LP640 together as completely different models, along with the original Gallardo, plus a Nissan Micra with a Lambo badge stuck on. That's not to say the old Lambos were bad cars by any means. The Murcie/gallardo and DB9/Vantage are great pairings, but it's the illogical hierarchy now and lack of properly new hardware that opens Aston up for attack.
I know they're short on cash but to me projects like the One-77, Cygnet and V12 Zagato seem to be attempts to avoid addressing Aston's core products.
JohnG1 said:
BuzzLightyear said:
Hmmm, looks familiar. Oh, yes:
Tough call...
MrTappets said:
Aston seem to really be taking their eye of the off the ball lately. Every two years they restyle one of their two basic cars that have now been with us for almost a decade (V8 and Vantage), call it a new model and put it on sale along with all the other outdated and superseded versions. The engine in this should have been replaced about three years ago, the 'new' Virage should have been a V8 mid-life restyle and the Lagonda should have been an estate (fixes the V8's four-seats-that-are-too-small problem by offering four seats that are too small in a slightly uglier and even slower package)
Apologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Tickford Metro.
Just edited your post. We really have been here before. We could have said all that in 1988. And in 1988 we had the V8 Vantage Zagato, about which the exact same things were said.Apologies for getting overexcited but Aston's product plan really riles me. Don't even mention the Tickford Metro.
Although a bit "a Russian Doll" as someone said higher...
even so much better-looking
than all "those" Toyotas, Nissans, Isuzus, Hyundais, or whatever Oriental supercars...
however good they "may be", or do I have to say "are"!
An Aston, when you've seen one near-to, or heard one, wow! All the others can hide.
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