RE: Driven: Aston Martin DBS Carbon Edition
Discussion
Nice looking car... But its just not "Aston" is it? This carbon fibre edition, those awful V12 Vantage bonnet vents, smoked rear lights... It just doesn't fit with the image of the Aston Martin brand IMHO. Where is the effortless cool and where's the "tradition"?
It's very similar to Daniel Craig taking over as James Bond. Great actor, and has had a good stab at the role. But he's far too gritty and far too violent with none of the flair and style we come to expect from a Bond; we have strict guidelines on what a Bond should achieve. Nobody could ever say he's as effortlessly suave as Moore or Connery. And what is his vehicle? A DBS.
It's very similar to Daniel Craig taking over as James Bond. Great actor, and has had a good stab at the role. But he's far too gritty and far too violent with none of the flair and style we come to expect from a Bond; we have strict guidelines on what a Bond should achieve. Nobody could ever say he's as effortlessly suave as Moore or Connery. And what is his vehicle? A DBS.
CampDavid said:
The 911 comparison doesn't work on a number of level but mainly because you don't buy a 911 for the way it looks while one of the main appeals of the Aston is the styling. Secondly, the 911 works because the styling has gone from extravigant (the 1980s shoulder pad look) through to todays itteration which now appears subtle, almost anonymous and lastly because the 911 is just one model, the styling has been applied to the Cayenne and the Panamera and hasn't worked at all on each, Aaston Martin are applying the oringal DB7 style accross the entire range of unrelated cars.
Are you trying to say that Porsche didnt try to style the Cayenne with a 911 front end, or the Panamera as a stretched 911, and the boxster as a baby 911 speedster.If anything, the AM cross pollination has worked better as all the cars have a similar profile.
The only downside to the current AM range is the excess of vents and carbon fibre. What made AM special (amongst other things) was the subtle approack it has to styling. Clean fluid lines that will stand the test of time.
Simond S said:
CampDavid said:
The 911 comparison doesn't work on a number of level but mainly because you don't buy a 911 for the way it looks while one of the main appeals of the Aston is the styling. Secondly, the 911 works because the styling has gone from extravigant (the 1980s shoulder pad look) through to todays itteration which now appears subtle, almost anonymous and lastly because the 911 is just one model, the styling has been applied to the Cayenne and the Panamera and hasn't worked at all on each, Aaston Martin are applying the oringal DB7 style accross the entire range of unrelated cars.
Are you trying to say that Porsche didnt try to style the Cayenne with a 911 front end, or the Panamera as a stretched 911, and the boxster as a baby 911 speedster.If anything, the AM cross pollination has worked better as all the cars have a similar profile.
The only downside to the current AM range is the excess of vents and carbon fibre. What made AM special (amongst other things) was the subtle approack it has to styling. Clean fluid lines that will stand the test of time.
Agree with you on the vents, though AML have always had them, they were subtle in the DB5, less so on the 90s V8
robsco said:
Nice looking car... But its just not "Aston" is it? This carbon fibre edition, those awful V12 Vantage bonnet vents, smoked rear lights... It just doesn't fit with the image of the Aston Martin brand IMHO. Where is the effortless cool and where's the "tradition"?
It's very similar to Daniel Craig taking over as James Bond. Great actor, and has had a good stab at the role. But he's far too gritty and far too violent with none of the flair and style we come to expect from a Bond; we have strict guidelines on what a Bond should achieve. Nobody could ever say he's as effortlessly suave as Moore or Connery. And what is his vehicle? A DBS.
I think Craig is much closer to the books' Bond.It's very similar to Daniel Craig taking over as James Bond. Great actor, and has had a good stab at the role. But he's far too gritty and far too violent with none of the flair and style we come to expect from a Bond; we have strict guidelines on what a Bond should achieve. Nobody could ever say he's as effortlessly suave as Moore or Connery. And what is his vehicle? A DBS.
900T-R said:
Zod said:
I think Craig is much closer to the books' Bond.
While the tone of the Craig-era movies is probably a lot closer to the books, I can't remember Fleming ever mentioning 007 was an ugly bugger or that he should be played by the Brit equivalent of Sylvester Stallone ... Zod said:
Ask a woman and you'll find that DC is not an ugly bugger. They drool over him. He also bagged Rachel Weisz. The comparison with Stallone is absurd.
I think you'll find Craigs appeal to women is fairly limited to the islands. On the continent, he's a big ugly fella that looks er... not very intelligent. Not unlike Stallone, then. 
900T-R said:
I think you'll find Craigs appeal to women is fairly limited to the islands. On the continent, he's a big ugly fella that looks er... not very intelligent. Not unlike Stallone, then.
Can't agree.DC is a massive upgrade over Brosnan. A perfectly good Bond IMO.
The comparisons with meathead characters such as Stallone is way off the mark I think.
900T-R said:
Zod said:
I think Craig is much closer to the books' Bond.
While the tone of the Craig-era movies is probably a lot closer to the books, I can't remember Fleming ever mentioning 007 was an ugly bugger or that he should be played by the Brit equivalent of Sylvester Stallone ... Does the James Bond effect actually influence people?
CampDavid said:
900T-R said:
Zod said:
I think Craig is much closer to the books' Bond.
While the tone of the Craig-era movies is probably a lot closer to the books, I can't remember Fleming ever mentioning 007 was an ugly bugger or that he should be played by the Brit equivalent of Sylvester Stallone ... Does the James Bond effect actually influence people?
Moore, Brosnan, Dalton, they all were suave, debonair and chiselled, they also had invisible cars and and relentless stream of stupid gadgets and worse one-liners...
To swap a bit of "fighting 10 men without a hair out of place and a quick quip' for a sense of realism is a MASSIVE step forwards.
Aston have alwasy suited the image perfectly, gentlemanly, stylish, but ready for some rough-tough too. Bentley....clearly an early mistake the author corrected...
He has had Sabbs, BMWs and all sorts though...so he's clearly not a fan-boy.
New images of Bond show him with stubble! Oh My GOD! NOOO! Bond was ALWAYS clean shaven without so much as pimple! hahahaa.....
To swap a bit of "fighting 10 men without a hair out of place and a quick quip' for a sense of realism is a MASSIVE step forwards.
Aston have alwasy suited the image perfectly, gentlemanly, stylish, but ready for some rough-tough too. Bentley....clearly an early mistake the author corrected...
He has had Sabbs, BMWs and all sorts though...so he's clearly not a fan-boy.
New images of Bond show him with stubble! Oh My GOD! NOOO! Bond was ALWAYS clean shaven without so much as pimple! hahahaa.....
Cheib said:
911 anonymous ? Who are you f
king kidding ? Do you really think people spend the thick end of £100k on a car to look anonymous ?
it may surprise you but some people do buy performance cars because they like them and not because they draw attention to themselvesking kidding ? Do you really think people spend the thick end of £100k on a car to look anonymous ? in fact I know of one person who hates the attention
Ramble, ramble, insert at least four Clarksonisms, blather, BS, "my mate drove one once," wittier, a mk1 MX5 is better, ramble, insert impression of having some kind of first hand experience, ramble, I never put my car on the PH garage cos it's st, ramble, etc, etc.
Once again, how very PH.
Looks good to me, well done on anyone that owns any Aston.
t, ramble, etc, etc.Once again, how very PH.
Looks good to me, well done on anyone that owns any Aston.
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