RE: Toyota GT 86: £24,995

RE: Toyota GT 86: £24,995

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Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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xRIEx said:
anonymous said:
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A lot more power, a lot more weight, a lot more money.
and a lot lot faster

the 370z wont have an armada of mid range rep oil burners glued to its ass like the slow toybaru will

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

200 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Agoogy said:
Oh dear PH you seem to have forgotten comparative 2nd hand car prices with which to compare and contrast with hehe
Exactly, you can have a used 911 for less than that, or an M6 etc etc etc.


Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
Agoogy said:
Oh dear PH you seem to have forgotten comparative 2nd hand car prices with which to compare and contrast with hehe
Exactly, you can have a used 911 for less than that, or an M6 etc etc etc.
or a golf!

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Chrisw666 said:
Agoogy said:
Oh dear PH you seem to have forgotten comparative 2nd hand car prices with which to compare and contrast with hehe
Exactly, you can have a used 911 for less than that, or an M6 etc etc etc.
or a golf!
V12 Ferrari - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3490556.htm

Running costs are going to be about the same!

Polrules

394 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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If it had been around £20k I might have considered it, at £25k I'll be doing this....


M@1975

591 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Good price that, I'd definitely be tempted. I'm a huge fan of the AE86 and have driven a few of them, willbe interesting to see if there is any comparison at all seeing as Toyota banged on about the AE86 being the inspiration whenthey forst talked about the project.
Thing is I can buy a cracking AE with a lot of very choice upgrades for a lot less and possibly not look like I drive the aforementioned Hyundai Coupe.....

LuS1fer

41,139 posts

246 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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To my eyes, it just looks like a RWD Celica might look and a natural progression from the last two generations of that car so comparing it to a Hyundai is pointless especially since Japanese styling has never really been a strong point in mainstream production models. The rear lights could have done without the chav appearance but that's about it.

The Scirocco may be OK from the front but from the rear, it's a disaster and it's just a lukewarm/hot hatch. The BMW is closest and is a lot uglier having been struck soundly by BMW's ugly stick and also costs more. The TT is also FWD or 4WD so not really the same market.

I suspect this will fall into the PH icon camp like the MX5 in due course.

ED209

5,746 posts

245 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Polrules said:
If it had been around £20k I might have considered it, at £25k I'll be doing this....

At 29995 for one of those, walk into a Nissan dealer with 26500 cash and i am sure they will do business. Spectacular value.

I thought about one on the friends/family discount scheme (16% off) but couldnt really justify the running costs as a daily runner

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Polrules said:
If it had been around £20k I might have considered it, at £25k I'll be doing this....
Can you explain why you are comparing the Toyota with a car with a purchase price that is 20% higher?

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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I've known the price for a while now whistle safe to say that with limited numbers coming into the UK the issue will be getting hold of one! Expect a wait if you're looking to order.

Will be interesting to see what Subaru price at (and then compare specs as it's only the trim and things like nav that will split them) and what sort of numbers they expect to bring in.

The recent Top Gear article was massively weighted to the Scoob - obvious TG Toyota prejudice to the fore then :rolloeyes:.

Either way, I reckon it will be a hoot to drive - fairly priced too. Personally, I'd go for a base spec and, if needed, supercharge it smile

MrGeoff

655 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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ED209 said:
At 29995 for one of those, walk into a Nissan dealer with 26500 cash and i am sure they will do business. Spectacular value.

I thought about one on the friends/family discount scheme (16% off) but couldnt really justify the running costs as a daily runner
They will indeed do business for that money, the 370 has not sold well. It's not a car for our times and unfortunately lives in the shadow of it's big brother in some respects. That said I have a Black Edition 370 sat in the garage and I love it.

Polrules

394 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Fittster said:
Can you explain why you are comparing the Toyota with a car with a purchase price that is 20% higher?
By the time you've added a few options I imagine you'll be very close to the price you would have to pay to get into a 370Z. Let's face it - Nissan dealers are not exactly beating punters off with a stick, at first glance it's 20% more expensive but I'd argue it's more than 20% better.

LuS1fer

41,139 posts

246 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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What are the relative VED rates and servicing costs for the Toybaru and 370Z though?

DanDC5

18,806 posts

168 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
and a lot lot faster

the 370z wont have an armada of mid range rep oil burners glued to its ass like the slow toybaru will
The point of this car has passed you by entirely hasn't it?

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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ED209 said:
Polrules said:
If it had been around £20k I might have considered it, at £25k I'll be doing this....

At 29995 for one of those, walk into a Nissan dealer with 26500 cash and i am sure they will do business. Spectacular value.

I thought about one on the friends/family discount scheme (16% off) but couldnt really justify the running costs as a daily runner
Which is precisely why 370Zs are not selling and are so cheap, and why Toyota and Subaru will have no trouble selling every single car they bring to the UK.

jetpilot

242 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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I do find the constant referencing to the original Ae86 somewhat ironic.

I had just written a lengthy response but guess my point is this without going into details and the hows, whys and do you mind if i donts smile

Not so long ago you could pick up an ae86 for not much money, as soon as they got rare and achieved a cult status (more so in Japan), everyone wants a similar car and discussions of how great they used to be are whispered on forums and pub corners! Same as Escorts, the now acclaimed British equivalent!


wackojacko

8,581 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Hmmm prefer the BRZ , actually for 25k I'd buy a 370z / Z4MC and a trip to Vegas.

nickfrog

21,189 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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OllieDavis said:
sensible money for something that gets the right amount of attention, the right amount of tingle in the right regions when pressing the go pedal without making you feel like you bought a Toyota because you couldn't afford something better.
So you buy a car to attract attention and to get a semi ?

Probably not the car for you, indeed. ;-)

ED209

5,746 posts

245 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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braddo said:
ED209 said:
Polrules said:
If it had been around £20k I might have considered it, at £25k I'll be doing this....

At 29995 for one of those, walk into a Nissan dealer with 26500 cash and i am sure they will do business. Spectacular value.

I thought about one on the friends/family discount scheme (16% off) but couldnt really justify the running costs as a daily runner
Which is precisely why 370Zs are not selling and are so cheap, and why Toyota and Subaru will have no trouble selling every single car they bring to the UK.
My main concern was practicality but i didnt think i could spell it so missed it off my original post. The toyota will suffer the same fate.

Polrules

394 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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LuS1fer said:
What are the relative VED rates and servicing costs for the Toybaru and 370Z though?
Fair point on the servicing - don't know what the Toyota will be but when I had my 350Z it cost less than £200 for a service at Nissan. Difference in VED will be around £200 annually - or 2 tanks of fuel. Not really enough to put me off a car at this price.