RE: GT 86 for £16K...

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Devil2575 said:

flattotheboards said:

Its all very well people saying how its great that Toyota are doing a basic version and that they would buy one however I am willing to bet (not much - I'm poor) that realistically nobody over here would buy them because there would be very limited market come resale time.

I agree. People in the UK like toys.

That seemed to be the case with the Peugeot Rallye versions - the 106 versions seem to be more sought after now. When I had a 309 Gti the dealer had an S1 Rallye as a loaner. He said to me they hadn't sold many compared to XSis. Different engines though so not quite the same type of comparison

[Chrisw666]

TonyHetherington said:

The £10k does, though.

True, I suppose you don't miss what you've never had. Budget £2k for a diff from a specialist or maybe buying them from Toyota in a year or two won't cost the earth.

[Carfolio]

There is an intermediate version - the G. The G has no LSD but does have painted bumpers. It has 16 inch alloy rims and the skinnier rubber. Converting the ¥ price is beyond me though...

[stuckmojo]

Good idea, actually.

As said above, it reminds me of the 205 rallye.

I guess that for about £2k one could fit decent light alloys, paint the bumpers, basic radio with satnav and an LSD.

What's not to like?

It looks like Toyota are on to "lean" sales as well nowadays

[DrGP]

Its a good idea for Japan and probably California. I love it, but I dont think it would work in the UK. Mini thought the majority of sales would be the One, with some Cooper, fewer Cooper S. Dealers ended up being asked to take One's as everyone in the UK wanted Cooper versions. We love to buy high spec in the UK. *when I say 'we' I exclude all the people here on PH who celebrate everything automotive*

[TonyHetherington]

Chrisw666 said:

True, I suppose you don't miss what you've never had. Budget £2k for a diff from a specialist or maybe buying them from Toyota in a year or two won't cost the earth.

That's it - you may end up spending a lot less than £10k in getting your wheels, body kit and gear stick cover

[PumpkinSteve]

I'd choose steelies with low profile tyres on a new car if they were offered.

[Chrisw666]

TonyHetherington said:

That's it - you may end up spending a lot less than £10k in getting your wheels, body kit and gear stick cover

Ripspeed Ahoy!

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Now if they would sell a version with no seats or interior trim, no heater and no suspension, we might be getting somewhere.

[Stig]

TonyHetherington said:

Oops sorry - very genuine indeed (I'm not the sarcastic type!).

I was reading the article thinking "interesting, but I imagine the appeal will be quite limited" - it hadn't even entered my mind the aftermarket tuner reason.

Had it been from anyone else I would have ignored it, but being 'old guard' I thought I'd check

It's a masterstroke from TMC - make it affordable to buy and customers 'upgrade' over time with all manner of tuning stuff according to requirement. I'll bet TMC have been working with the tuners to get them off to a headstart too (not to mention the TRD stuff). Instant cult status.

[Carfolio]

Oh, and the RC & G versions make do with solid rear brake discs, not ventilated as on the GT.

[Marf]

Carfolio said:

There is an intermediate version - the G. The G has no LSD but does have painted bumpers. It has 16 inch alloy rims and the skinnier rubber. Converting the ¥ price is beyond me though...

type xxxxxx jpy in gbp into google where xxxxxx is the yen amount

[Stig]

Chrisw666 said:

A 40kg saving and sacrificing the LSD doesn't sound like it would be the drivers choice. Probably more for the pimp my ride then sit in a car park crowd.

Bear in mind that they still need to end up with a car that's roadworthy and safe.

Remove/replace the seats, trim, all manner of other gubbins and replace with 'race' items and that 40kg will be the tip of the iceberg. Re. the LSD, as said before, most tuners would replace it anyway for drift/race use. No sense in adding one which would add to the base price if all you're going to be doing is generating a huge unwanted stockpile of standard GT-86 diffs when owners remove them.

[IAJO]

you cant just convert yen to £ and say thats the price it will sell at over here. Inevitably it will be more expensive in the uk than japan.

[XJSJohn]

good strategy for the export market to SE Asia too where the import duties are very high (generally over 120% of OMV) so this keeps the base cost down low making the car very affordable, then just drop on some aftermarket alloys and body kit (as is the Asian way)

Recon i will be seeing a few of these on the roads in Singapore before long .... all with RAYS or OZ wheels.

[Stig]

DrGP said:

Its a good idea for Japan and probably California. I love it, but I dont think it would work in the UK. Mini thought the majority of sales would be the One, with some Cooper, fewer Cooper S. Dealers ended up being asked to take One's as everyone in the UK wanted Cooper versions. We love to buy high spec in the UK. *when I say 'we' I exclude all the people here on PH who celebrate everything automotive*

GT-86 isn't about volume though, it's about excitement and brand image. Either way, there will be a waiting list for GT-86 in the UK (limited numbers coming even in our 'full fat' spec) which will keep demand strong.

[bakerstreet]

davidcharles said:

finally Toyota do something interesting...its only taken about 15years...

new Supra next please

With Honda launching a new NSX, thay may be enough to encourage Toyota to relaunch the Supra.

|I like the idea od a back to basiscs car, but I'd still wat a stereo, speakers, alloys and some painted bumpers.

[Carfolio]

Marf said:

type xxxxxx jpy in gbp into google where xxxxxx is the yen amount

I said beyond me, really meant can't be arsed ;-)

[Marf]

Poor dear, typing 15 characters into google is such hard work

[Riknos]

The more I hear about this car, the more I want it!

Pity I'll have to wait 5 years for it to come down to a sensible price