RE: SOTW: Subaru Impreza Turbo
Discussion
Motorrad said:
I cant quote bicycleboy or whatever his name is but my point remains hes talking about a different car so probably best to ignore his comments mpg.
77mph > 69mph. More drag. More fuel.4000rpm is more than 3000rpm. More fuel.
Turbo on boost. More fuel.
GPS reading < Speedo reading. (Usually)
Modifications can happen to a UK car or a JPN car.
I'll happily retract any of these comments if they don't apply to a car with the same engine, though detuned.
bicycleshorts said:
77mph > 69mph. More drag. More fuel.
4000rpm is more than 3000rpm. More fuel.
Turbo on boost. More fuel.
GPS reading < Speedo reading. (Usually)
Modifications can happen to a UK car or a JPN car.
I'll happily retract any of these comments if they don't apply to a car with the same engine, though detuned.
Gearing on my car is such that I 'could' do up to 75mph off boost.4000rpm is more than 3000rpm. More fuel.
Turbo on boost. More fuel.
GPS reading < Speedo reading. (Usually)
Modifications can happen to a UK car or a JPN car.
I'll happily retract any of these comments if they don't apply to a car with the same engine, though detuned.
70mph is about 2800rpm
What postcodes do you lot live in that are saying insurance is coming in at £8-900+ (£3500 
) ?
Just did a quick comparison site check and the cheapest for me is £455. 31, 3 points for sp30, 8000 miles a year.
If I had a need for a 2nd car as a load lugger/hoon mobile then this would be a cracking choice. Sadly I don't have that need
) ?Just did a quick comparison site check and the cheapest for me is £455. 31, 3 points for sp30, 8000 miles a year.
If I had a need for a 2nd car as a load lugger/hoon mobile then this would be a cracking choice. Sadly I don't have that need
KB_S1 said:
Gearing on my car is such that I 'could' do up to 75mph off boost.
70mph is about 2800rpm
70mph is about 2800rpm
Is yours a GC or GD? I'd assumed the gearboxes were the same in Turbo 2000s and WRXs. http://bbs.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/3532...
The fact that I've not owned an Impreza eats away at me sometimes. I've come close, even shook on a deal only for the seller to write the thing off next day before I could pick it up and pay for it.
Having test driven a couple, a well sorted one in good nick feels very planted on road.
Having test driven a couple, a well sorted one in good nick feels very planted on road.
KB_S1 said:
Mine is a UK wagon, don't know the GC GD thing.
Insurance for me is around £500 at 32, loads of NCB, one SP50 and 5k business.
Ignore me, GD was the bug eye, but that was released in 2001, not 2000 as I first thought.Insurance for me is around £500 at 32, loads of NCB, one SP50 and 5k business.
I stand corrected. Reading up a bit more, it looks like the WRX gearbox was shorter than the UK Turbo one. A big list of transmissions here. I can't believe they detuned it and put in longer ratios
Your insurance is cheap!
bicycleshorts said:
Ignore me, GD was the bug eye, but that was released in 2001, not 2000 as I first thought.
I stand corrected. Reading up a bit more, it looks like the WRX gearbox was shorter than the UK Turbo one. A big list of transmissions here. I can't believe they detuned it and put in longer ratios
Your insurance is cheap!
The basic tune and gearbox suits my needs perfectly. Of course I always want more power, quicker acceleration etc but, I also need to use this car every day. Sometimes I do big miles. A WRX/STi would probably need to be a 2nd car for me.I stand corrected. Reading up a bit more, it looks like the WRX gearbox was shorter than the UK Turbo one. A big list of transmissions here. I can't believe they detuned it and put in longer ratios
Your insurance is cheap!
I wouldn't call insurance cheap but I know what you mean.
At the time, these were the best cars for the money. The classic Scoobie! EVO, Autocar, Car & Motor all raved about them.
I've had 2 and done 130,000 miles between them so I'd say I have plenty of experience, tried the new bug eyed one in 2001 and was underwhelmed, it was slower and less 'alive' and looked like a Granada Scorpio, which was not so good either.
It was juicy, I was doing 1000+ miles per week sometimes and it was common to fill up twice a day!!!! A small fuel tank and MPG in the teens. I was always 'pushing on' too!
In 1997 I had my bright red Scoobie as a co car and a pal was running a 1996 BMW 328i Coupe as co car. I rememeber we did a winter mountaineering trip to Scottish Highlands and we had a great 'race' back to Surrey. The Scoobie ate the BM for breakfast, but as it was a 600mile trip, I had to stop for Fuel 4 times, he only stopped once
I've had 2 and done 130,000 miles between them so I'd say I have plenty of experience, tried the new bug eyed one in 2001 and was underwhelmed, it was slower and less 'alive' and looked like a Granada Scorpio, which was not so good either.
It was juicy, I was doing 1000+ miles per week sometimes and it was common to fill up twice a day!!!! A small fuel tank and MPG in the teens. I was always 'pushing on' too!
In 1997 I had my bright red Scoobie as a co car and a pal was running a 1996 BMW 328i Coupe as co car. I rememeber we did a winter mountaineering trip to Scottish Highlands and we had a great 'race' back to Surrey. The Scoobie ate the BM for breakfast, but as it was a 600mile trip, I had to stop for Fuel 4 times, he only stopped once
I drove a red non turbo impreza 12,000 miles to Mongolia back in 2008... The car was a gem and it never let us down once apart from a small ht lead frying but a quick road side repair seen us back on the road in no time. Best thing about the engine.... never used much oil thru high temp and sometimes rough and challenging driving!
Husaberk said:
bicycleshorts said:
As I said, it depends what speed you cruise at.
It'll probably happily do 28mpg if you are at 60mph gps, which is close enough to 70mph indicated on most speedos. Most people, at least from my experience, drive at around this on motorways.
I was doing more than that by GPS. On boost, pulling about 4000 rpm. Hence more fuel was used
Why would anyone buy one?
- They cost a grand
- There's no depreciation (a good example might even gain money)
- Road tax is cheap as they're pre 2001
- If the work's been done, they're mechanically very good
- They have over 200bhp/tonne
It's very hard to go quicker for less, fuel consumption is a small part of owning a car. Especially a car which will probably be used more for hooning than a daily driver.
As an example, I have a friend with a 330D, he goes on and on about 40mpg. How much did it cost him for a set of tyres? Near enough £1000. Yes, very economical!
To add to this:It'll probably happily do 28mpg if you are at 60mph gps, which is close enough to 70mph indicated on most speedos. Most people, at least from my experience, drive at around this on motorways.
I was doing more than that by GPS. On boost, pulling about 4000 rpm. Hence more fuel was used
Why would anyone buy one?
- They cost a grand
- There's no depreciation (a good example might even gain money)
- Road tax is cheap as they're pre 2001
- If the work's been done, they're mechanically very good
- They have over 200bhp/tonne
It's very hard to go quicker for less, fuel consumption is a small part of owning a car. Especially a car which will probably be used more for hooning than a daily driver.
As an example, I have a friend with a 330D, he goes on and on about 40mpg. How much did it cost him for a set of tyres? Near enough £1000. Yes, very economical!
- Widely acknowledged as one of the greatest driver's car ever.(Note. ONE OF not THE before anybody gets too excited)
- It makes one of the most evocative noises there is, some are way too loud but if you deep down just don't like it at any volume I'd have question what you're doing on this website.
- Interior, quite a few princesses moaning on here suggesting it's nasty. It's merely functional, you getting a lot of other good stuff for your cash, which is only £1000. Again are you sure you're on the right site if soft touch plastics are more important to you than how a car drives?
Servicing - More expensive than Ford/Vauxhall cheaper than BMW/Audi/Merc, do your research on specialists/parts suppliers and it gets even cheaper.
As for the interior thing if you think the Frecnh do a bad interior you aint seen nothing yet. (Yes, yes, I know, I know, soft touch piano black plastics are for men who sleep with men but considering the stick french motors get its only fair to explain just how bad it is. Even a 172 with its exposed metal *gasp* is like a Rolls Royce in comparison. The dash often looks sweaty)
Booted, hatch and wagons can get flooded boots at this age too, oh and the doors feel very very light, you can flex most of the panels on them too with one finger. (Anybody know how they fare in crashes?)
Later ones up the power to 218bhp.
They feel very 'soft' when compared to the harder set ups of european cars but at the same time feel like they have much higher grip levels than most. (not just because they are 4x4)
I wouldnt agree with the earlier poster saying they attract agression and people constantly challenging them, it seems nobody wants to play, certainly not in the traffic light gp, not even the 1.9TDi/320d numpties.
ive just bought an 02 WRx wagon for 1800, with FSH and all the receipts for servicing and all parts including tyres from new, its got a completely standard exhaust etc just a remap to 250bhp, no rust, no dings, I am chuffed to bits
if i stay out of the turbo ive had 35mpg on a motorway trip
had a few GTB legacys to the impreza feels and bit slow,
but for 1800 on an 02, well happy
if i stay out of the turbo ive had 35mpg on a motorway trip
had a few GTB legacys to the impreza feels and bit slow,
but for 1800 on an 02, well happy
KM666 said:
135 comments and nobody wants to let potential buyers know the standard brakes are crap? The standard brakes aint fantastic even on 4 pot post 1999/2000MY versions which are regarded as having the 'better' brakes.
As for the interior thing if you think the Frecnh do a bad interior you aint seen nothing yet. (Yes, yes, I know, I know, soft touch piano black plastics are for men who sleep with men but considering the stick french motors get its only fair to explain just how bad it is. Even a 172 with its exposed metal *gasp* is like a Rolls Royce in comparison. The dash often looks sweaty)
Booted, hatch and wagons can get flooded boots at this age too, oh and the doors feel very very light, you can flex most of the panels on them too with one finger. (Anybody know how they fare in crashes?)
Later ones up the power to 218bhp.
They feel very 'soft' when compared to the harder set ups of european cars but at the same time feel like they have much higher grip levels than most. (not just because they are 4x4)
I wouldnt agree with the earlier poster saying they attract agression and people constantly challenging them, it seems nobody wants to play, certainly not in the traffic light gp, not even the 1.9TDi/320d numpties.
I find the brakes (4 pots) more than up to road use. Plenty outright stopping power and easy to modulate. Perfect pedals for heel 'n' toe. Wouldn't want to have less.As for the interior thing if you think the Frecnh do a bad interior you aint seen nothing yet. (Yes, yes, I know, I know, soft touch piano black plastics are for men who sleep with men but considering the stick french motors get its only fair to explain just how bad it is. Even a 172 with its exposed metal *gasp* is like a Rolls Royce in comparison. The dash often looks sweaty)
Booted, hatch and wagons can get flooded boots at this age too, oh and the doors feel very very light, you can flex most of the panels on them too with one finger. (Anybody know how they fare in crashes?)
Later ones up the power to 218bhp.
They feel very 'soft' when compared to the harder set ups of european cars but at the same time feel like they have much higher grip levels than most. (not just because they are 4x4)
I wouldnt agree with the earlier poster saying they attract agression and people constantly challenging them, it seems nobody wants to play, certainly not in the traffic light gp, not even the 1.9TDi/320d numpties.
My car had the flooding boot problem. Good thing to point out to people
2-3hrs works and £10 on drain seal sorted it though (at the expense of near frostbite).
Interior, doesn't bother me really. I prefer the money went to performance.
KM666 said:
135 comments and nobody wants to let potential buyers know the standard brakes are crap? The standard brakes aint fantastic even on 4 pot post 1999/2000MY versions which are regarded as having the 'better' brakes.
As for the interior thing if you think the Frecnh do a bad interior you aint seen nothing yet. (Yes, yes, I know, I know, soft touch piano black plastics are for men who sleep with men but considering the stick french motors get its only fair to explain just how bad it is. Even a 172 with its exposed metal *gasp* is like a Rolls Royce in comparison. The dash often looks sweaty)
Booted, hatch and wagons can get flooded boots at this age too, oh and the doors feel very very light, you can flex most of the panels on them too with one finger. (Anybody know how they fare in crashes?)
Later ones up the power to 218bhp.
They feel very 'soft' when compared to the harder set ups of european cars but at the same time feel like they have much higher grip levels than most. (not just because they are 4x4)
I wouldnt agree with the earlier poster saying they attract agression and people constantly challenging them, it seems nobody wants to play, certainly not in the traffic light gp, not even the 1.9TDi/320d numpties.
I deffo remember the brakes are a bit pants two big slow downs and then no more slow down IIRC. As for the interior thing if you think the Frecnh do a bad interior you aint seen nothing yet. (Yes, yes, I know, I know, soft touch piano black plastics are for men who sleep with men but considering the stick french motors get its only fair to explain just how bad it is. Even a 172 with its exposed metal *gasp* is like a Rolls Royce in comparison. The dash often looks sweaty)
Booted, hatch and wagons can get flooded boots at this age too, oh and the doors feel very very light, you can flex most of the panels on them too with one finger. (Anybody know how they fare in crashes?)
Later ones up the power to 218bhp.
They feel very 'soft' when compared to the harder set ups of european cars but at the same time feel like they have much higher grip levels than most. (not just because they are 4x4)
I wouldnt agree with the earlier poster saying they attract agression and people constantly challenging them, it seems nobody wants to play, certainly not in the traffic light gp, not even the 1.9TDi/320d numpties.
Oh and the ICE was absolutely unlistenable, but then you could play a tune on the boxer engine, in fact as I type this I can hear one going on the road must be a super gun exhaust but does sound well.
Oh two more things, the gearboxes are sometimes 'difficult' when cold and the dash is home to the biggest waste of a dedicated button ever, inscribed with the word 'bright' you might think it makes the headlights brighter or turn the spotlights on, the little wheel/fan like picture next to it even perhaps bringing to mind something boost related, what is its function? Selecting from two levels of interior clock brightness. Not the dash, just the clock.
KM666 said:
Oh two more things, the gearboxes are sometimes 'difficult' when cold and the dash is home to the biggest waste of a dedicated button ever, inscribed with the word 'bright' you might think it makes the headlights brighter or turn the spotlights on, the little wheel/fan like picture next to it even perhaps bringing to mind something boost related, what is its function? Selecting from two levels of interior clock brightness. Not the dash, just the clock.
Glad you confirmed that. I had thought of tracing the circuit to find out why all it seemed to do was change the clock.I really miss the dash from my old Legacy, it could be dimmed way down which was great for late night countryside driving.
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