RE: Audi TT RS Plus announced
Discussion
CooperS said:
Saw one in Edinburgh sat there waiting.... and it looked mean, visually get rid of the spoiler and i'd move from my M to one (oh and if i had a spare 20k more to get into one....)
It's a factory delete option:http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/t...
All you need is the cash now.
NelsonR32 said:
Obviously never driven one then? Because that is an absurd statement if I ever heard one.
I have, and the TTS, and the base quattro petrol.I thought I'd end up with one for the longest time while I was looking at daily drive cars last year because I love the cabin.
That said, stock the steering feels like an on/off switch to me, like playing a racing game on the PC with a keyboard. It was absolutely hopeless; you push for more and exactly nothing happens. Can it be helped with mods? I don't know, perhaps, but spending that much on a car I want it to be enjoyable and 'right' out of the box. My other car is running ~950hp so the power means nothing to me, its everything else that counts.
Raitzi said:
Audi shoud adjust understeer out of TT before adding more power. I mean they have some serious issues with understeer. Even RS3 had to be built with wider tyres in front to fight the understeer with little success.
its deliberateits safe
it can be dialed out with a geo change, if its too much trouble for you to learn how to turn in on a trailing throttle like a scooby
the problem is when the TT came out it killed a few people and made very bad press, ever since then audi have setup all there cars to be safe and as 99% of there buyers dont drive on the limit its not an issue
Raitzi said:
Audi shoud adjust understeer out of TT before adding more power. I mean they have some serious issues with understeer. Even RS3 had to be built with wider tyres in front to fight the understeer with little success.
You do realise that pretty much every road car (including RWD ones) out there is set up to tend to understeer to some extent, don't you?Wills2 said:
But Audis are famed for it and it's not just the geo, rather more the bloody great big lump slung out over the front axle.
and yet the urquattro which is a hero car has an engine 2 foot further infront of the front axel than the TT and its not slated 
look at the pics of the TTRS engine it sits on the axel and is tilted slightly backwards behind it.99% of the people saying it have never driven one, same as those who keep regurgitating that haldex is not permanent 4wd myth
i have driven the TTRS and its one of audi's best ever engines (it won engine of the year 2010 and 2011) especially if your a swb quattro fan, to get it to understeer on the road you either have to be an incompatant ape or driving fast enough to be looking at an instant ban
still looks like a hairdressers car
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Saturday 11th February 20:37
gmh23 said:
It's funny how everyone who actually owns a TTRS loves them.
In my view, they're very under-estimated, may be a little bland but can p1ss all over cars costing a lot more
Not the most impartial people to ask. On the other hand you've got to question the sanity of someone who loves something bland.In my view, they're very under-estimated, may be a little bland but can p1ss all over cars costing a lot more
Dave Hedgehog said:
Wills2 said:
But Audis are famed for it and it's not just the geo, rather more the bloody great big lump slung out over the front axle.
and yet the urquattro which is a hero car has an engine 2 foot further infront of the front axel than the TT and its not slated 99% of the people saying it have never driven one, same as those who keep regurgitating that haldex is not permanent 4wd myth
i have driven the TTRS and its one of audi's best ever engines (it won engine of the year 2010 and 2011) especially if your a swb quattro fan, to get it to understeer on the road you either have to be an incompatant ape or driving fast enough to be looking at an instant ban
still looks like a hairdressers car
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Saturday 11th February 20:33
I'm not saying it's a bad car but it's not the ultimate weapon some of the fan boys on here would have you believe, you only have to look at its ring lap time to see that the straight line pace is not carried through the corners even when in the hands of pros.
Wills2 said:
Well I've driven a few quattros in my time and owned an allroad quattro and let me tell you they do understeer the engine and it's position does make itself felt.
I'm not saying it's a bad car but it's not the ultimate weapon some of the fan boys on here would have you believe, you only have to look at its ring lap time to see that the straight line pace is not carried through the corners even when in the hands of pros.
on the a4 or larger platforms including the V8s the engine does sit a lot further forward than the TT engine, you can see here its on the axel and tilted slightly backwardI'm not saying it's a bad car but it's not the ultimate weapon some of the fan boys on here would have you believe, you only have to look at its ring lap time to see that the straight line pace is not carried through the corners even when in the hands of pros.
and the allroads a bus
Dave Hedgehog said:
Wills2 said:
Well I've driven a few quattros in my time and owned an allroad quattro and let me tell you they do understeer the engine and it's position does make itself felt.
I'm not saying it's a bad car but it's not the ultimate weapon some of the fan boys on here would have you believe, you only have to look at its ring lap time to see that the straight line pace is not carried through the corners even when in the hands of pros.
on the a4 or larger platforms including the V8s the engine does sit a lot further forward than the TT engine, you can see here its on the axel and tilted slightly backwardI'm not saying it's a bad car but it's not the ultimate weapon some of the fan boys on here would have you believe, you only have to look at its ring lap time to see that the straight line pace is not carried through the corners even when in the hands of pros.
and the allroads a bus
ZeeTacoe said:
gmh23 said:
It's funny how everyone who actually owns a TTRS loves them.
In my view, they're very under-estimated, may be a little bland but can p1ss all over cars costing a lot more
Not the most impartial people to ask. On the other hand you've got to question the sanity of someone who loves something bland.In my view, they're very under-estimated, may be a little bland but can p1ss all over cars costing a lot more
It amazes me that this car inspires so much vitriol. Some is clearly from people who subscribe to the Top Gear for their opinions and others from obvious trolls.
Now before going much further I own a TTRS so clearly that makes be biased.
The car itself has its faults and in particular I can see how the rear spoiler is a bit of a Marmite feature, for me I keep vaciliating between liking it and not. On the road if this car understeers then you are clearly driving it way too fast for the conditions. The grip levels are simply phenomonal. I have not tracked mine yet but intend to do so inside the next months or so, and if anyone is interested I'll let you know how I get on.
The car I was considering alongside this was a Cayman S Sport which only just lost out. The main reasons for choosing the TT was the dealership experience (I know this has no bearing on the relative merits of each car), the cabin which I love (I think the well screwed together VAG cabin is one of the best out there, at this price point), the day to day useability of the TT for my particular situation, the rarity and the looks.
Having said all of that those black and red alloys really do not float my boat!
Now before going much further I own a TTRS so clearly that makes be biased.
The car itself has its faults and in particular I can see how the rear spoiler is a bit of a Marmite feature, for me I keep vaciliating between liking it and not. On the road if this car understeers then you are clearly driving it way too fast for the conditions. The grip levels are simply phenomonal. I have not tracked mine yet but intend to do so inside the next months or so, and if anyone is interested I'll let you know how I get on.
The car I was considering alongside this was a Cayman S Sport which only just lost out. The main reasons for choosing the TT was the dealership experience (I know this has no bearing on the relative merits of each car), the cabin which I love (I think the well screwed together VAG cabin is one of the best out there, at this price point), the day to day useability of the TT for my particular situation, the rarity and the looks.
Having said all of that those black and red alloys really do not float my boat!
MitchyRS said:
Interesting little chart here from car and driver...
Audi TTRS is the 3rd hardest launching car they have tested in front of the mighty GTR and 997TTS. To think the little Audi only has 340bhp too makes it even more impressive.
Its not for everyone, fair enough, but its not a bad little car. Awesome with a tune, really brings them alive.
Peace out.
When I see the Panamera Turbo ahead of the 911 Turbo S I do have to wonder if they're not mixed-up test conditions (weather/tyres/surface/driver/fuel load and all that) a bit there...Audi TTRS is the 3rd hardest launching car they have tested in front of the mighty GTR and 997TTS. To think the little Audi only has 340bhp too makes it even more impressive.
Its not for everyone, fair enough, but its not a bad little car. Awesome with a tune, really brings them alive.
Peace out.
MitchyRS said:
Spend £600 on these things and they put a lot of supercars to shame, spend £600 on a big engine N/A V10 car and you'll be lucky to get 10hp out of the thing.
Translation - a car which is turbocharged can be tuned easily by turning up the boost and mapping accordingly (and hoping the engine doesn't explode) - a car which is not, cannot.Not exactly news that, is it??
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