RE: Audi TT RS Plus announced

[M666 EVO]

JJMatrixx said:

Buff Mchugelarge said:

Hair dressers need never be late for an appointment ever again!
Well done Audi!

Stuck in the 90s.

Was just about to mention the hairdressers image thing but someone beat me to it

I quite like it though. Short back and sides anyone?

[troc]

Dr G said:

3.0 TSI does similar power and sounds awesome once you've binned the girly standard exhaust.

Binning the standard girly exhaust is on my to-do list

[gmh23]

Not-so-interestingly, this car is manual-only in the states

[iain1970]

TT RS Plus?

How rude.

[Dave Hedgehog]

JJMatrixx said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

arn't you worried that it will go bang and you will get a massive bill? or do you have buckets of cash lying around?

There's a lot of chat about this on the VAGOC forum - guys are running 500bhp+ through this block with no issues. My clutch is starting to slip at 18k miles so I suspect I'll have to replace that at my own cost - cest la vie.

manual?

[David87]

I feel dirty for liking it, but I genuinely think it'd be a splendid road car to live with day-to-day. Don't really care if it understeers a little - it's not supposed to be a circuit car.

[jon-]

David87 said:

I feel dirty for liking it, but I genuinely think it'd be a splendid road car to live with day-to-day. Don't really care if it understeers a little - it's not supposed to be a circuit car.

It understeers a lot. I'm not talking "you have to really give it a kick to get it sideways", I'm talking you have to be a massive prick to get any hint of oversteer on the road.

As an every day road car I'm sure it's just great, it has masses of grip, it's a lovely place to be inside and sounds ok. But we're a car forum full of drivers, and as a drivers car it's simply rubbish.

[CoupeCrazy]

The standard TT is perfectly fine as a road car for the cosmopolitan types of this world.

A 360 BHP version on a car that is based on a Golf is silly, and just attracts knob headery.

[JJMatrixx]

Dave Hedgehog said:

JJMatrixx said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

arn't you worried that it will go bang and you will get a massive bill? or do you have buckets of cash lying around?

There's a lot of chat about this on the VAGOC forum - guys are running 500bhp+ through this block with no issues. My clutch is starting to slip at 18k miles so I suspect I'll have to replace that at my own cost - cest la vie.

manual?

Yup. Not sure the DSG could take that, although I do know of cars with a DSG running the same setup as mine.

[DannyScene]

Barring the wheels that looks ace

[dave stew]

Now then - this, like the Golf et al is Haldex clutch based 4WD and that of course means that it's FWD until some slippage occurs.

I know that the Haldex system that Volvo use is hideously unreliable - eats the oil seals and then munches the 'angle gear'. Are these the same?

The only decent Audi 4WD systems use a north/south engine and conventional full time AWD.

Any quattro experts out there?

[BSC]

Some comments on the chav wheels are simply to answer: You may tick a box on the options list and go for the wheels of your personal taste.

I get the suspicion that some on here are bashing the car as they don't like the superior performance of the TTRS that blows their Astons, TVRs and Co. into the weeds.

[JJMatrixx]

jon- said:

David87 said:

I feel dirty for liking it, but I genuinely think it'd be a splendid road car to live with day-to-day. Don't really care if it understeers a little - it's not supposed to be a circuit car.

It understeers a lot. I'm not talking "you have to really give it a kick to get it sideways", I'm talking you have to be a massive prick to get any hint of oversteer on the road.

As an every day road car I'm sure it's just great, it has masses of grip, it's a lovely place to be inside and sounds ok. But we're a car forum full of drivers, and as a drivers car it's simply rubbish.

I had a BMW 135 before it and before the 1M came out all the reviews raved about how it was back to BMW roots - raw driving experience and very involving, akin to the 328/M3s of old. Personally, the lack of traction did my head in, sure you could get the back end out but it's only fun for so long. And in the UK when the roads are wet more often than not, I constantly found myself feathering in the throttle as the thing would just spin the wheels unless the conditions were bone dry.

With the TT RS, there's something very satisfying driving a car that will hit 60 in under 4 second in literally any conditions and not put you into a tree if you make a mistake on a b road. I love driving and there's no way you can't call this a driver's car - it's just a different driving experience and one that I prefer.

[anything fast]

I have never liked the Audi TT..

UNTIL NOW!

[mkindyr1]

Just a small point but the RS6 Plus was actually 580 PS and was a twin turbo V10.

[aka_kerrly]

jon- said:

But we're a car forum full of drivers, and as a drivers car it's simply rubbish.

That is where you are wrong and Audi are right.

Even PH is not a forum full of drivers, I'd bet around 5% of the members who post in GG have done 1 track day let alone provoke over steer on public roads. The vast majority of drivers who will be buying the Audi do not want over steer, what they do want is something that is stable, very fast with even a below average driver behind the wheel, something that won't bite them if they get too eager but most importantly looks good.

I agree that the wheels are a let down and really don't do anything for me but then I rarely have factory wheels on any of my cars.

[Sicob]

gmh23 said:

Sicob said:

So 50k on this or simply pick up an R8 second hand, that in my mind is what the TT wants to be. Don't get it. Looks so Halfords too.

You<----------------------------------------------------->The point

Yeah, you missed it completely

No. Get the "Wanna be" R8 or just get an R8. Simple choice really. In the real world where there is a second hand market, you'd be mad to choose this over an R8 regardless of it being new.

[nickfrog]

jon- said:

nonuts said:

Big Six said:

Extra power for a car that only noes one type of cornering attitude.UNDERSTEER.

That's Audi for you! And people buy this sh@t.

You driven a TTRS on a track then, or is this just regurgitated rubbish you've heard on the TV / Internet?

I've driven a TTRS on track. Many different tracks in fact, and on the same days as driving many other vehicles all on the same tyres so I've a balanced view point.

It understeers. A lot.

I would agree. You sometimes see them on TD and they are devastatingly quick in a straight line (well until they cook their brakes, and at which point they start short shifting like the rest of us do for other reasons, mainly because going fast in a straight line is pretty boring) but they're not great around corners, not much lateral grip compared to any humble mid-engine car really, which defeats the object. Never saw the point of traction without apex speed in the first place.

Still, it must be a great road car if you need a point and squirt.

[jimslops]

BSC said:

I get the suspicion .

What is that?

[Max-Burn]

The only thing to interest me is that that limiter has been raised to 174mph..... Not sure why the Germans have this 155 limit anyway, except to just annoy people.