RE: PH Fleet: Golf GTI Edition 35

RE: PH Fleet: Golf GTI Edition 35

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Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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AbarthChris said:
a white '61 plate Golf with an Orange five in the boot... you are officially an accountant from Surrey smile
Fair point, well made. Especially given said photo was taken in Peaslake too. Oh dear. Is this me?

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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AbarthChris said:
a white '61 plate Golf with an Orange five in the boot... you are officially an accountant from Surrey smile
Fair point, well made. Especially given said photo was taken in Peaslake too. Oh dear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feQyJeJgIw8]Is this...

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Robsti said:
The push pull gear change should be forward for down changes and back for up changes but with the paddles the gearstick becomes irrelevant after a while.
i use both all the time and have done so for 5 years

the problem with the paddles on the wheel is that if your on tight twisty stuff with fast wheel movement they can be in the wrong place, especially if the handbrake is being used

and so its official the golf is the best car in the world biggrin

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Paul Dishman said:
BigTom85 said:
ktm301p said:
As good as the Golf may be - I think £30,000 is an excessive amount of money for a Golf, or any equivalent hatchback for that matter.
Straight in on the first post. rofl
Yep its the standard PH moan. rolleyes
Peasants!

FlavaDave

213 posts

159 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Forget the stupid 'all round ability' praise... Buy two cars - one for each.

Yeah, you agree? Thought you would.

Cheers thanks bye.

Stuart

11,635 posts

251 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Well Riggers either appears to have forgotten that I share office space with him, or that I borrowed this car for a whole weekend, because he didn't ask me what I thought.

I really liked it. Really liked it. Needing to transport my family to Taunton en route to a weekend business appointment in South Wales, I opted to take this because I really fancied taking the twisty route after I'd dropped them off the prospect of a FWD car as an alternative to my RWD E60 felt like a good option with the threat of snow and ice.

Likes;
- that gearbox is brilliant in whatever they put it in. It works really well in these sort of cars.
- Fantastic chassis and steering. An extremely chuckable car that you really want to press on in, but which seems enjoyable at comparatively low speeds.
- "Like a Golf" - we have a Mk5 1.6 as our second car and it just does stuff well, so the whole thing is as solid and capable as you'd expect.

Dislikes

- Even when I was not being a hooligan, I struggled to keep it above 27mpg on the motorway at sensible speeds. It might fly in the face of the hot hatch credentials, but a car with pretty good refinement everywhere else and a well stocked gadget list needs cruise control. I'm sure it'd help and just make it a little bit more into an all rounder.
- The engine amplification trickery grates. I just don't see the point - if this sort of engine doesn't sound great, fine. Just have a hot hatch with more refinement - it would certainly advance the argument that this car is a good all rounder with performance when you need it. Don't add weight with false nonsense like this.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Alex said:
"push for an up change and pull for down change"

That's the wrong way round, surely?
Same as BMW steptronic on my 2000 E39 5 series, apparently there is a wire swop under the console and that restores common sense selection (or sods up the electronics) no true, the change was done by BMW on later years/models I believe.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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I have been waiting for Riggers 3rd post re his Golf love affair, must not make noises as just recently bought Gulf Mk4 VR6 4Motion, it is a good and cheap tool, cruises at 80+ at 3250rpm in 6th and returns 28.6mpg.
Not a bad car for £2k, everything works and it equiped with everything heated seats etc etc.
Doors shut just like a Golf still - after 11 years,clap

Edited by urquattro on Monday 20th February 13:28


Edited by urquattro on Tuesday 21st February 10:12

carllll

23 posts

188 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Ive got a manual one of these and i get well over 30 mpg (mixed driving) without even trying, its has only a 1000 miles on it so it should improve as well, of course if its heavy traffic rush hour town driving it falls just like any car. Aparantly the DSG is a fair bit thirstier.

corcoran

536 posts

274 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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NOT THIS DAMN GOLF AGAIN.

  • gets shotgun*

MikeGTi

2,505 posts

201 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Garlick said:
IIRC 28.7 over 600 miles of mainly motorway. Normal unleaded.

Personally I think a modern engine should do better, especially as I wasn't thrashing it in any way. An average that is in the thirties would be preferable.
That seems pretty immense.

I've got a standard DSG with a Superchips map and I can pull mid to high 30s sticking around the speed limit.

ktm301p

Original Poster:

746 posts

189 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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St John Smythe said:
iain1970 said:
ktm301p said:
As good as the Golf may be - I think £30,000 is an excessive amount of money for a Golf, or any equivalent hatchback for that matter.
I take it you haven't looked to buy a new car in a good few years then, Golfs or cars that are just like a Golf. Even reasonably specced small run arounds are tipping the scales at five figures. The equivalent model to our Ibiza is the thick end of £20k these days, they have gone up £5k in less than seven years.

It's 2012, not 1987.
Exactly!
It may be 2012 and £30k might be the going rate for a hatchback these days, but that doesn't change the fact that £30k is excessive for a small hatchback IMO! getmecoat

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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ktm301p said:
St John Smythe said:
iain1970 said:
ktm301p said:
As good as the Golf may be - I think £30,000 is an excessive amount of money for a Golf, or any equivalent hatchback for that matter.
I take it you haven't looked to buy a new car in a good few years then, Golfs or cars that are just like a Golf. Even reasonably specced small run arounds are tipping the scales at five figures. The equivalent model to our Ibiza is the thick end of £20k these days, they have gone up £5k in less than seven years.

It's 2012, not 1987.
Exactly!
It may be 2012 and £30k might be the going rate for a hatchback these days, but that doesn't change the fact that £30k is excessive for a small hatchback IMO! getmecoat
but the thing is it aint small, all cars (well German anyway) have jumped up a size over the last 15 years

polo = early golf
golf = early A4
a4 = early A6 etc

Stuart

11,635 posts

251 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
but the thing is it aint small, all cars (well German anyway) have jumped up a size over the last 15 years

polo = early golf
golf = early A4
a4 = early A6 etc
Yep, I'd agree with this. Particularly the new polo which seems massive. That said, given the choice I'd prefer to be T-boned in the new polo than the old golf...

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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This thread 'Sounds like a Golf'. (God, don't you just 'hate' that advert!)

When you PH team decided to announce (Jan 25 wasn't it?) you were going to change the winter tyres/wheels to summer ones, we just knew what was gonna happen. I scurried and got my Thinsulate mits, scarf and hat... I was right - within days I was struggling in the bloody stuff the same colour as the 'sounds like a Golf' white.
Siberian freeze all thanks to 'sounds like a Golf' team.

Now we supposedly have a 'drought'...
you haven't fitted bloody Uniroyal (rain) tyres have you?

Golf? Ought to rename it 'Jinx' or 'Grate' (def not the other spelling). Horrible car.

Nothing personal you realise.biggrin

Stuart

11,635 posts

251 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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dandarez said:
When you PH team decided to announce (Jan 25 wasn't it?) you were going to change the winter tyres/wheels to summer ones
I haven't actually used the specific expression "I bloody told you so" to them, but I bloody well told them so...

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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30k. 30mpg. Ok it's a fast little number. But it's still a golf. And you'll have to put up with "just like a golf" jokes for the next few years.

Think I'd sooner have a Jag XF on the drive for that money. That'd definitely give me a bigger smile to look out the window and see.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Munter said:
30k. 30mpg. Ok it's a fast little number. But it's still a golf. And you'll have to put up with "just like a golf" jokes for the next few years.

Think I'd sooner have a Jag XF on the drive for that money. That'd definitely give me a bigger smile to look out the window and see.
Interesting point, for £30k you can only be looking at 2.2DIESEL XF which although is a very good car in it's own right isn't likely to be considered a Golf GTI alternative is it? The XF is a bigger car, a lot bigger, 1m longer and 500Kgs heavier so hardly a hot hatch.





heebeegeetee

28,735 posts

248 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Munter said:
30k. 30mpg. Ok it's a fast little number. But it's still a golf. And you'll have to put up with "just like a golf" jokes for the next few years.

Think I'd sooner have a Jag XF on the drive for that money. That'd definitely give me a bigger smile to look out the window and see.
Doesn't driving come into it? An XF won't punt down a B road like a Golf GTi, will it?

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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No it's not a direct car comparison. But this isn't a balls out drivers car (think elise). It's a compromise. I think as an overall "which would make me happier to own". I think I'd compromise a bit more handling, for desirability, comfort, and style.