RE: PH Blog: Porsche puts us in seventh (speed) heaven

[Twincam16]

Kazlet said:

Utterly pointless.

You could say that of any sports car, let alone a gearbox.

Which is why Porsche should be applauded for catering for drivers who still appreciate the tactility and skill involved in driving a proper three-pedal H-gated manual.

[Riggers]

Twincam16 said:

Kazlet said:

Utterly pointless.

You could say that of any sports car, let alone a gearbox.

Which is why Porsche should be applauded for catering for drivers who still appreciate the tactility and skill involved in driving a proper three-pedal H-gated manual.

O/T, but does seven speeds push the 'H-gate' description too far? more like H-Y gate? (with the seventh on the rightmost stick of the 'Y'?) Or am I being far too literal...?

[kambites]

Riggers said:

O/T, but does seven speeds push the 'H-gate' description too far? more like H-Y gate? (with the seventh on the rightmost stick of the 'Y'?) Or am I being far too literal...?

Surely only a 4-speed with no reverse is a "real" H-gate?

[Riggers]

kambites said:

Surely only a 4-speed with no reverse is a "real" H-gate?

I'd go with that. Maybe we need to think up a whole new description...

[dtrump]

HonestIago said:

Am I the only one that thinks "Porsche 911 Carrera" crammed onto the rear looks a bit wrong?

+1 It looks utterly terrible imo

If I ever got one id be removing the 'porsche' part

[Twincam16]

Riggers said:

Twincam16 said:

Kazlet said:

Utterly pointless.

You could say that of any sports car, let alone a gearbox.

Which is why Porsche should be applauded for catering for drivers who still appreciate the tactility and skill involved in driving a proper three-pedal H-gated manual.

O/T, but does seven speeds push the 'H-gate' description too far? more like H-Y gate? (with the seventh on the rightmost stick of the 'Y'?) Or am I being far too literal...?

YIY-gate?

Otherwise known from now on by the Carcoat Damphands end of the trade as a 'Geordie'.

[Trusty Steed]

Still a squashed beetle what ever you do to it!!

[Riggers]

Twincam16 said:

YIY-gate?

Otherwise known from now on by the Carcoat Damphands end of the trade as a 'Geordie'.

So a Geordie Spaniard?

Like this guy?


http://youtu.be/uSXzRWlL7Z0

[Hellbound]

Joy of sticks?

We're not talking about tummy sticks here are we?

[M666 EVO]

Riggers, you have the best job ever

I love that, the colour and everything

[anonymous-user]

I'd like to try a similarly spec'd Carrera manual and a Carrera PDK before making the call on which to go for - manual is my default choice

I think the manual is going to be quite rare so that test is going to be harder to arrange than I would like

I asked at an OPC yesterday if they had a manual 991. 'No and we don't expect we will unless its specifically ordered for a customer'

[Oddball RS]

freedman said:

Alfa numeric said:

When I was idly looking at 996's a couple of years ago I noticed that the tiptronic models were cheaper than the manuals. Are the rare manual examples going to appreciate in the future I wonder?

Theres nothing 'rare' about a manual 996, there's thousands of them out there!

The Tip models are cheaper because the people who buy a sports car of that age don't want an auto, not because there are more of them!

[Mermaid]

M666 EVO said:

Riggers, you have the best job ever

With all the perks, probably on job seekers allowance or something like that

Old cars, mainly modestly powered, were good with a manual box.

Time to move on with the new machinery.

[MHig]

I don't get the comment about "7 tightly-stacked ratios..etc". I understood that the box is essentially a manualised PDK and has 6 "normal" ratios plus a very long 7th.

So all the keeping the engine in the sweet spot stuff applies to the gears 1-6. 7th is like the old-fashioned overdrive with about 36 mph/1000rpm where 6th only pulls 26 mph/1000.

While there may be perceptible acceleration in 7th at 70 mph, it will be pretty weak that far down the torque curve. So a change-down will be needed when blocked slightly on the motorway, or to get away from anyone in a 2-litre turbodiesel. In my view they would have done much better to stick with a conventional 6-speeder with an automated or button-actuated overdrive.

[0a]

The first new 911 I have actually liked the look of. I love that red!

[RSchneider]

Is it true that the PDK and the manual are basically the same gearbox?

[Blue62]

RSchneider said:

Is it true that the PDK and the manual are basically the same gearbox?

I don't think so, in the article it states that Porsche should be applauded for developing a 7 speed manual for the 991, in an age where manuals are going out of fashion. I'm lucky to own a manual 997GTS, tried the PDK and was very impressed, especially in comparison to tiptronic, which I personally hated. It comes down to what you want from a car and how you will drive it, if it was my daily driver I think I would opt for PDK, but as a car I'm essentially driving for pleasure it has to be manual.

[Merle]

I think Porsche can thank the Porsche Club of America for so many manual shift transmissions sold over here. I believe a very high percentage of their cars are sold to club members and I see few PDKs at club meets. The PCA has a huge membership here.

[Porsche997C4S]

dtrump said:

HonestIago said:

Am I the only one that thinks "Porsche 911 Carrera" crammed onto the rear looks a bit wrong?

+1 It looks utterly terrible imo

If I ever got one id be removing the 'porsche' part

Yep, really too much there, the 997's were fine without the 'Porsche' bit..

[gred]

Blue62 said:

I don't think so, in the article it states that Porsche should be applauded for developing a 7 speed manual for the 991, in an age where manuals are going out of fashion. I'm lucky to own a manual 997GTS, tried the PDK and was very impressed, especially in comparison to tiptronic, which I personally hated. It comes down to what you want from a car and how you will drive it, if it was my daily driver I think I would opt for PDK, but as a car I'm essentially driving for pleasure it has to be manual.

Er, yes it is. It's an adaptation of the pdk twin gearbox. Includes the stop/start feature as well.