RE: Subaru: Stripped-out BRZ heading for UK

[SystemParanoia]

iain1970 said:

Even the cheapo GT86 would be £20k plus here. Britain is the land where manufacturers get the cream and we get ripped off. Subaru have mooted their version will be dearer (why?), so get saving.

If you all didn't say "yes please" to nearly every exciting-ish car that gets announced, we might get some down to earth prices for once.

we said yes please to the new hyundai coupe that was FR and looked heaps of fun.

hyundai responded by telling us fkyou! lol

[GroundEffect]

cluelesscarnut said:

£16k=no way,be same as always,rip off britain where we pay 25% more than everywhere else

Ah the good old 'rip off Britain'. Go try and buy an Audi or BMW in China and see how much they are.

[iantek]

With regard to the over all ethos of this car, i think Subaru and Toyota have been reading Pistonheads!! However, once the concept had to pass by the bean counters and the marketeers, it seems they have had to make compromises. I think this will be a great car, i would love to get one even though my budget is 1-2K rather than 21K! If the Subaru is 16K i will eat my hat (which is made of Jaffa Cakes).

Also, am i the only one that gets upset when the car you want has different versions? I have a 'thing' for having the 'top' version and the existence of other versions bugs me. Not sure why, anyone else?

[Captain Muppet]

NadiR said:

Finally one manufacturer who don't charge more for less.

The Lotus Elise CR is the stripped-out Elise, and it's also the cheapest car they sell.

PaulB81 said:

...and with Lotus moving out of the cheap end of the track car, drivers car market (stupid!) these should clean up.

It's three years until the current Elise gets replaced with the new Elise. Prices are under £30k for the current car and haven't been announched for the new car, obviously, as it's years away. So what are you basing your doom-mongering on?

[stew-S160]

SO MUCH WANT!

[Steve Gunnis]

Riggers - you should be shot for writing that first line, you've got all these kids thinking they can afford a new BRZ now.

Some bloke did an idiot conversion on the Yen price of the base model GT-86 and came up with £16K. The top spec BRZ will be around £1,000 more than the GT-86 so expect the stripped out version to be similarly priced, so anywhere between £21K and £24K, whatever, it's speculation but...

...IT WILL NOT COST £16K!!!

[gherkins]

GroundEffect said:

cluelesscarnut said:

£16k=no way,be same as always,rip off britain where we pay 25% more than everywhere else

Ah the good old 'rip off Britain'. Go try and buy an Audi or BMW in China and see how much they are.

Or even here in Germany. And if you really want rip off you don't have to move too far - go to Belgium, Portugal or Norway.

[jmjo88]

Can't help but think a used Cayman would be a better bet...

[Captain Muppet]

jmjo88 said:

Can't help but think a used Cayman would be a better bet...

I dunno, I doubt either would be as much fun per pound as the E30 325i I bought for £100 (my current winner in the yeah-but-I-could-buy-a-used-one-of-these-for-less-money game).

Of course your Cayman will cost Porsche prices to run, rather than Toyota prices. Insurance, servicing, tyres, tax and fuel will all be more. Plus a Cayman is a couple of seats short.

[Steve Gunnis]

Or this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3557864.htm

RWD Coupe, 690kg, rorty twincam engine, sublime handling and...

...celebrating it's 50th Anniversary this year!

[DaveR]

Captain Muppet said:

Of course your Cayman will cost Porsche prices to run, rather than Toyota prices. Insurance, servicing, tyres, tax and fuel will all be more.

Without wishing to spoil the party, I do wonder about the insurance premiums on these things. It surely can't have escaped the insurance companies' attention that these cars are designed primarily to appeal to people who like to drive sideways....

[ewenm]

jmjo88 said:

Can't help but think a used Cayman would be a better bet...

Luckily for you when the Cayman was first released, many people didn't listen to those saying "Can't help but think a used 911 would be a better bet...".

Someone has to buy cars new for them to end up as a "better bet" in the used market, hence why comparing new with used is foolish. I reckon a used BRZ would be better value than a used Cayman.

[jmjo88]

Someone has to buy cars new for them to end up as a "better bet" in the used market, hence why comparing new with used is foolish. I reckon a used BRZ would be better value than a used Cayman.
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Working from market value, if a Cayman and BRZ are both sitting at £20k then there is nothing foolish about such a comparison. After which you consider running costs and then decide which car is for you.

[PGM]

jmjo88 said:

Someone has to buy cars new for them to end up as a "better bet" in the used market, hence why comparing new with used is foolish. I reckon a used BRZ would be better value than a used Cayman.

Working from market value, if a Cayman and BRZ are both sitting at £20k then there is nothing foolish about such a comparison. After which you consider running costs and then decide which car is for you.

Subaru has +2 rear seats for the kids so blows the Cayman out of the water for me.

[oliver9523]

I really hope they sell very well and are bulletproof. I would hate to see all the buzz fizzle out if they have to recall a boat load!

[JB!]

if it comes in at 20k or less it'll be a winner.

[snorkel sucker]

Steve Gunnis said:

Riggers - you should be shot for writing that first line, you've got all these kids thinking they can afford a new BRZ now.

Some bloke did an idiot conversion on the Yen price of the base model GT-86 and came up with £16K. The top spec BRZ will be around £1,000 more than the GT-86 so expect the stripped out version to be similarly priced, so anywhere between £21K and £24K, whatever, it's speculation but...

...IT WILL NOT COST £16K!!!

+1

People seem to be getting carried away with the £16k figure like its even a remote possibility!

You can only just get a Ford Focus for that kind of cash!

[KB_S1]

Grovsie26 said:

NadiR said:

Finally one manufacturer who don't charge more for less.

Lightweight versions of cars, especially supercars, usually employ expensive lightweight materials such as carbon fibre, so it's no surprise there often more.

Subaru and Mitsubishi have always offered stripped out versions of the Impreza/Evo for rally purchase at lower price.
So nothing new and as you say in the case of supercars, not really applicable.

[SleeperCell]

I doubt there's much incentive to sell them that cheap since there will be a lot of pent up worldwide demand that needs to be satisfied before they need to start thinking about cheapo discount models. The Toyota vs Subaru sales battle should at least ensure the prices remain tolerable though.

[Evil.soup]

davepoth said:

FAST FORDS said:

v nice
any one know whats the CO2 going to be, as it would make a enjoyable company car if under our 160 kg limit

CO2 for the GT86 is 160.

Wow thats great!!

Just £165 a year tax for a 200HP Subaru............................thats a first!!