Talbot Samba Cabriolet

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SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Quirky yes. Tecnically French, although I believe Clement-Talbot was an English company in the 30s. Peugeot bought Chrysler europe in 1979 and dug up the talbot marque to badge the range (Alpine, Horizon, Avenger, Sunbeam)

SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Sits quite well in with Skoda Yugo FSO Lada etc yes

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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SambaS said:
Quirky yes. Tecnically French, although I believe Clement-Talbot was an English company in the 30s. Peugeot bought Chrysler europe in 1979 and dug up the talbot marque to badge the range (Alpine, Horizon, Avenger, Sunbeam)
There was a British Talbot which became part of the Roots group and a French Talbot Largo who became part of Simca. Roots and Simca were both taken over by Chrysler who were then snapped up by Peugeot. Somebody must know whether the brand is British, French or (in all probability) a mongrel.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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SambaS said:
Yea I was gutted as was the owner who really wanted it saved. Would have fit right in with my 80s stuff. However I did think one beige car might be enough!
is that a 6190 with the loader on it? It's a David brown stood next to it, but I can't make out what is on the tanker in the top right corner.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Love it. Always wanted one since my Mum had a 1.4 hatch when I was a kid. Remember seeing one at the Peugeot-Talbot garage in Wokingham and being amazingly jealous.

Gompo

4,411 posts

258 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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SambaS said:
If the owners club cant even save something like that there's little hope, I think
I assume you mean a Talbot owner's club rather than a just a Tagora club?

I am surprised it wasn't saved, however I am not sure how many are out there in the UK. Less than 10 I expect.

SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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most certainly
Gompo said:
I assume you mean a Talbot owner's club rather than a just a Tagora club?

I am surprised it wasn't saved, however I am not sure how many are out there in the UK. Less than 10 I expect.

Gompo

4,411 posts

258 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Doesn't help when one owner has three of them!

SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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well one less will bump thd prices up
Gompo said:
Doesn't help when one owner has three of them!

rswift

1,179 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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CDP said:
SambaS said:
Quirky yes. Tecnically French, although I believe Clement-Talbot was an English company in the 30s. Peugeot bought Chrysler europe in 1979 and dug up the talbot marque to badge the range (Alpine, Horizon, Avenger, Sunbeam)
There was a British Talbot which became part of the Roots group and a French Talbot Largo who became part of Simca. Roots and Simca were both taken over by Chrysler who were then snapped up by Peugeot. Somebody must know whether the brand is British, French or (in all probability) a mongrel.
There is also Talbot-Matra, which was very briefly on the badges of Matra, or Matra-Simca cars (1979 I think) ! Google Matra Bagheera, and Matra Murena for some other quirky french cars...

And from memory, the Talbot Alpine was car of the year in 1979....

kprm77

417 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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SambaS said:
I'm just waiting for the sunshine now smile
Is that an XR3(i) alongside?

[ETA - just looked at your profile and seen that it is an XR3. Love the Monza too biggrin ]

Yardelli

90 posts

245 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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I was an apprentice at Talbot in the early 80's when Peugeot came in and recall spending a stint as part of my training in their Marketing division. Distinctly remember sitting next to an employee when they had the job of calling a competition winner to tell them they had won a competition with Opal Fruits and were to receive their first prize of a bright Yello Samba Cabrio!
The Tagora was a belting motor - tons of room in the back and indeed - ultra scarce these days.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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CDP said:
SambaS said:
Quirky yes. Tecnically French, although I believe Clement-Talbot was an English company in the 30s. Peugeot bought Chrysler europe in 1979 and dug up the talbot marque to badge the range (Alpine, Horizon, Avenger, Sunbeam)
There was a British Talbot which became part of the Roots group and a French Talbot Largo who became part of Simca. Roots and Simca were both taken over by Chrysler who were then snapped up by Peugeot. Somebody must know whether the brand is British, French or (in all probability) a mongrel.
Lago. Rootes.

It was something of a full circle as Talbot-Lago was 'originally' Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq, Darracq having bought Clement-Talbot in 1919 and merged with Sunbeam in 1920. The group collapsed in 1935 and Talbot was sold to the Rootes Group who also took the Sunbeam name/brand. Talbot-Lago was taken over by Chysler in 1959. Chrysler bought into Rootes in 1964.


sday12

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211 months

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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sday12 said:
€1700???? He's dreamin'!

SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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I believe so yes. They demand a higher price in France but 1700e wants to be a good en!
Pothole said:
1700???? He's dreamin'!

SambaS

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417 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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The engine's to come out soon as the clutch has been slipping for 2 years (1 year off road due to cataclysmic MOT fail) and the exhaust manifold has a crack or leak so she's noisy and as tappety as ever. Also needs a repaint under there and a bit of weld to the bulkhead. May as well get it all done at once but I'm dragging my heels in cos will take me more than a few weekends!

twazzock

1,930 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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SambaS said:
twazzock said:
I know, hence the 'desperate for cash' bit. Don't know the story of the car obviously, but I imagine that a car like that, once made known to an owners club, will be snapped up VERY quickly. Regardless of the motives, it's a shame.
Well this makes it more annoying actually the club were made aware of the car in November last year. People viewed it but no one committed. Btw I am now to my regret not signed up. I found out of the cars existance last week and rang the owner straight up to be told it was scrapped. Ive wanted one for years
That's a damn shame. I know plenty of other owners clubs that will snap up pretty much any car that fits their 'type', even if it's knackered. The true enthusiasts will save just about anything, even if it needs a hell of a lot of work.

How many Samba ragtops are left now, can't be in double digits even?!

EDIT: 13 according to HowManyLeft. Not many at all.

SambaS

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187 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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I was gunna say, 13 last I checked, and 3 Tagoras I think. I had the only surviving Samba S in 2009, happily it has been restored. At the time it was beyond my capabilities and welders by trade just laughed! There was a lot to do smile

Pistom

4,970 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Tha Tagora was a very capable car in its day. Loads of room with a decent spec. Cruise control, electric widows and mirrors in 1981.

The Matra Simca Bagheera had a quirky vertical radio installation and the 3 seats were ideal if your idea of a balanced relationship was a ménage et toils.

Ditto the Talbot Matra Murena but that had a 5th gear that would have been better suited to 4th.

The Samba Cabriolet was ahead of its time.

The Chrysler 180/2 Litre was vastly superior to the Ford Cortina but rot meant life expectancy guaranteed virtual extinction in no time.

The Alpine and Solara were just nasty and robbed the UK of badging Alpine Renaults correctly in the UK.

The Rancho as nasty as the Alpine but great idea in principal.