RE: PH Blog: back from the magistrates
Discussion
Can someone explain the below to a non UK person
"Just as it now appears impossible to tax a car without a cover note that bears the same address as the V5 document, so drivers with valid insurance through fleet schemes and such like could find themselves, like I did, in a spot of bother."
I now what the V5 is but I do not see the link with the address /tax/ insurance
Thanks
"Just as it now appears impossible to tax a car without a cover note that bears the same address as the V5 document, so drivers with valid insurance through fleet schemes and such like could find themselves, like I did, in a spot of bother."
I now what the V5 is but I do not see the link with the address /tax/ insurance
Thanks
To be honest the DVLA are a bunch of useless.... erm.. pole propelled shallow draft boats.
I had a car clamped on my drive for having a unlicenced/taxed vehicle on the public highway. It was SORN'ed throughout winter and on my own land. Not my fault that the road becomes private at the end. DVLA accepted that after a terse conversation with the council but would the clamping company accept that. Not unless I showed them the deeds and other arbitrary crud. I eventually just removed the clamp and told them to swivel.
I had a car clamped on my drive for having a unlicenced/taxed vehicle on the public highway. It was SORN'ed throughout winter and on my own land. Not my fault that the road becomes private at the end. DVLA accepted that after a terse conversation with the council but would the clamping company accept that. Not unless I showed them the deeds and other arbitrary crud. I eventually just removed the clamp and told them to swivel.
Around 18 months ago i tried to tax my motorbike on line to find i couldn't as they had no record of any insurance, I contacted my insurance broker who confirmed my insurance but also confirmed that my bike was not on the data base, i protested about this, explaining had the police stopped me i'd have had trouble trying to prove insurance to them, they answered that it was my responsibilty to make sure that i was on the database and it could take up to 4 weeks from that date to get on it!
Just to make matters worse, i couldn't find my insurance docs so had to pay to have another set sent out so i could stand in line at the post office to tax my bike the old fashioned way!
Just to make matters worse, i couldn't find my insurance docs so had to pay to have another set sent out so i could stand in line at the post office to tax my bike the old fashioned way!
There appears to be a slight flaw in the process. Surely after you receive the summons there should be instructions on how to call the DVLA and get them to conference call your insurance company to confirm that your car is insured.
10 minutes with Joe from the dvla's insurance department could resolve the problem and free up the time from our courts to process all the extra bad un's that our police will lock up in the time they would usually spend looking for uninsured drivers.
Seems a shame to waste your time and that of the 10 or so people that adorn the magistrates court when it could probably be resolved by a phone call.
10 minutes with Joe from the dvla's insurance department could resolve the problem and free up the time from our courts to process all the extra bad un's that our police will lock up in the time they would usually spend looking for uninsured drivers.
Seems a shame to waste your time and that of the 10 or so people that adorn the magistrates court when it could probably be resolved by a phone call.
This, like speed camaras, has a huge flaw; it only penalises those who break some of the laws but not all of them. If I were to steal someone else's car and then drive it through a speed camara at 100mph. No one would have a clue who it was. It relies on someone being honest enough to tell DVLA who they are and where they live in the first place.
I do get the feeling the honest regular car owner gets the bum deal and those scum who avoid the law seem to get away with it again and again. That is why they have these systems but actually it just makes our lives more complicated and potentially expensive.
Typical episode of Police, Camera, Action before the end of the programme:
'man arrested for driving at 140mph with no MOT, no insurance, no license, 20 illegitimate kids with no seat belts on... for the third time,,, in a year... gets 1 hours community service and cup of tea at the police station'. If that was you our me, we'd be locked up and they'd throw away the key!
Typical episode of Police, Camera, Action before the end of the programme:
'man arrested for driving at 140mph with no MOT, no insurance, no license, 20 illegitimate kids with no seat belts on... for the third time,,, in a year... gets 1 hours community service and cup of tea at the police station'. If that was you our me, we'd be locked up and they'd throw away the key!
I know a chap who reckons the government should provide third party insurance to all drivers. Automatically. It would be funded from taxation in the price of petrol. Just basic no frills third party. No fire, theft or money for you.
Nothing to stop you taking out further F&T or comp insurance. That'd be your choice.
How useful would that be? Never happen though.
Nothing to stop you taking out further F&T or comp insurance. That'd be your choice.
How useful would that be? Never happen though.
Yay.
YES EOF707LIS showing as insured on the Motor Insurance Database today.
The details on the MID are:
Vehicle Make/Model: AUSTIN MINI COOPER S
If the vehicle make and model details are not correct you must contact your insurance provider to resolve the issue.
Quite a helpful site to be honest.
YES EOF707LIS showing as insured on the Motor Insurance Database today.
The details on the MID are:
Vehicle Make/Model: AUSTIN MINI COOPER S
If the vehicle make and model details are not correct you must contact your insurance provider to resolve the issue.
Quite a helpful site to be honest.
it's more simple than that - its about public servants creating jobs for themselves.
Are they going to stop any uninsured driving ? no, of course not. The criminal class that this is aimed at just won't care.
Are they going to waste a lot of money with databases, letters and summoning innocent people to court ? yes
Are they going to give otherwise law-abiding persens a headache ? yes of course they are, just like the number plate supply laws or SORN, etc. It's all just collateral damage to them
Are they going to stop any uninsured driving ? no, of course not. The criminal class that this is aimed at just won't care.
Are they going to waste a lot of money with databases, letters and summoning innocent people to court ? yes
Are they going to give otherwise law-abiding persens a headache ? yes of course they are, just like the number plate supply laws or SORN, etc. It's all just collateral damage to them
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