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I'd hope so. I miss my 33. 
How about this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160754898095?ssPageName=...
...powering this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300674085379?ssPageName=...
N/A 13B's love superchargers as well so 300+bhp in a GRP box could be interesting.
How about this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160754898095?ssPageName=...
...powering this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300674085379?ssPageName=...
N/A 13B's love superchargers as well so 300+bhp in a GRP box could be interesting.
Would keep an open mind and find somethign thats had loads of work done, all those awkward jobs as lets have it right a lot of old cars can look presentable but are actually just a car shaped object for you to festoon with new parts to replace all the knackered crusty ones, our Fiat 500 had been coaxed, by its previous owner by some kind of black magic to run properly long enough for us plonkers to buy it, since then,
Engine Rebuild (it exploded, I rebuilt it, rings, barrels, gaskets, spare head used) 2nd time engine out
Welding (new sill, drivers floor)
Brake light switch
Wheel Cylinders
Voltage Regulator
Carpets
Ignition Switch
Plug Leads
Clutch cable
Headlamp Srrounds
Re-Welded door pins
Battery
Horn
4 tyres (£50 each)
Driveshafts (involved taking the gearbox/diff apart and engine out)
Wheel Bearings
Fuel pipe
Probably more.....
Plus countless hours doing the work as effectively if you cant spanner yourself, the labour costs will bankrupt you or make the car effectively scrap, it seemed fine when we bought it but every fastener had been re-used, everything done cheaply and more time than money spent to get stuff to work when really, it was knackered.
Some people think about buying a classic, "what fun", like the lady in a thread a while back that bought an MGB despite no knowledge, comparing one to a modern car is barmy, its ike a modern car is buying a Sony Aibo electronic dog that does as it is told compared to buying a 45 year old Fiat which is like buying a mistreated, highly strung, agressive, stupid Jack Russell with several interesting and expensive medical issues that farts, s
ts, bites, chews barks and spunks on your Trouser leg. Some people manage to get by through luck with classics, some manage ok without any disasters and others end up with a twitch and a thousand yard stare. Some just enjoy crusty metal, oil and rooting round under heaps.
My 944 has had a fortune spent but I need to adress some minor crustiness, deal with the slightly vague steering, get the belts done, sort the PAS belt slack, get the tracking done etc etc, send it in to a Porsche specialist and it will cost more than I paid for it so I have to do stuff myself, so far its needed,
A battery
Heater blower Knob
£130 in total, in six weeks, not so bad !
But have a £40 new angle grinder here, to do the small bits of bodywork.
Classics are more like having horses, more lifestyle than hobby.
Engine Rebuild (it exploded, I rebuilt it, rings, barrels, gaskets, spare head used) 2nd time engine out
Welding (new sill, drivers floor)
Brake light switch
Wheel Cylinders
Voltage Regulator
Carpets
Ignition Switch
Plug Leads
Clutch cable
Headlamp Srrounds
Re-Welded door pins
Battery
Horn
4 tyres (£50 each)
Driveshafts (involved taking the gearbox/diff apart and engine out)
Wheel Bearings
Fuel pipe
Probably more.....
Plus countless hours doing the work as effectively if you cant spanner yourself, the labour costs will bankrupt you or make the car effectively scrap, it seemed fine when we bought it but every fastener had been re-used, everything done cheaply and more time than money spent to get stuff to work when really, it was knackered.
Some people think about buying a classic, "what fun", like the lady in a thread a while back that bought an MGB despite no knowledge, comparing one to a modern car is barmy, its ike a modern car is buying a Sony Aibo electronic dog that does as it is told compared to buying a 45 year old Fiat which is like buying a mistreated, highly strung, agressive, stupid Jack Russell with several interesting and expensive medical issues that farts, s
ts, bites, chews barks and spunks on your Trouser leg. Some people manage to get by through luck with classics, some manage ok without any disasters and others end up with a twitch and a thousand yard stare. Some just enjoy crusty metal, oil and rooting round under heaps.My 944 has had a fortune spent but I need to adress some minor crustiness, deal with the slightly vague steering, get the belts done, sort the PAS belt slack, get the tracking done etc etc, send it in to a Porsche specialist and it will cost more than I paid for it so I have to do stuff myself, so far its needed,
A battery
Heater blower Knob
£130 in total, in six weeks, not so bad !
But have a £40 new angle grinder here, to do the small bits of bodywork.
Classics are more like having horses, more lifestyle than hobby.
Very true. I like comparing the Fiat 500 to a Jack Russel as well. A well treated one will be your best friend a mistreated one will be straight down the nearest hole as soon as it gets a whiff of rat. But like dogs there is no amount of neglect or mistreatment can't be undone with the right attitude, patience, time and experience(I retrain and home ex-Police and armed services dogs). I already own three welders, two grinders and various metric and imperial tools (as well as a few gallons of waxoil and hammerite) so I'm well prepared. 
Liquid Knight said:
Very true. I like comparing the Fiat 500 to a Jack Russel as well. A well treated one will be your best friend a mistreated one will be straight down the nearest hole as soon as it gets a whiff of rat. But like dogs there is no amount of neglect or mistreatment can't be undone with the right attitude, patience, time and experience(I retrain and home ex-Police and armed services dogs). I already own three welders, two grinders and various metric and imperial tools (as well as a few gallons of waxoil and hammerite) so I'm well prepared.
Yes, my diatribe wasnt really aimed at you based on your previous history, more those who think its a good idea that arent in full possesion of the facts.under budget, 12 months ticket, bugger all miles, what's not to like
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
jjones said:
under budget, 12 months ticket, bugger all miles, what's not to like
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
I like that a lot.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
Hairspray said:
jjones said:
under budget, 12 months ticket, bugger all miles, what's not to like
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
I like that a lot.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3631515.htm
Liquid Knight said:
Very true. I like comparing the Fiat 500 to a Jack Russel as well. A well treated one will be your best friend a mistreated one will be straight down the nearest hole as soon as it gets a whiff of rat. But like dogs there is no amount of neglect or mistreatment can't be undone with the right attitude, patience, time and experience(I retrain and home ex-Police and armed services dogs). I already own three welders, two grinders and various metric and imperial tools (as well as a few gallons of waxoil and hammerite) so I'm well prepared.
How the hell are the police training their dogs nowadays?!?!
Liquid Knight said:
J4CKO said:
Thing is, when the 500 gets an MOT I feel like I should have an acceptance speech ready.
The amount of effort you're putting in now will be worth ten times that when you're driving down the road. Hang in there. 
Honestly, it isn my idea, its the wife's, she got one in the early nineties, which we sold when the kids were small, so she decided she wanted another. I derive a *small* amount of enjoyment when something works and when she putters off somewhere in it and leaves me in peace, especially if there is no phone call asking me to come and drag it home (bring a dust pan and brush). For example it is at her parents in their outbuildings for the winter, she drove it there and it conked out at the end of the drive, not sure why but will have to dig it out and get back on it, you sort one thing it comes up with something else !
The brakes work now which is good but the gearchange is distinctly iffy and when it is running it always feels like a temporary and unexpected state. They are simple but it is amazing how busy they can keep you, think ours is an extreme example and I am not all that interested in it as to be honest I feel a tit driving it, I can sort of see the appeal, if working, with double the bhp, a better gearchange, tighter steering, suspension and brakes like an Abart I bet they are a hoot, both of ours have been "temperamental", I would prefer a classic Mini or Moggie 1000, so much more usable and generally a bit more dependable, they were cars, the Fiat was an exercise in mobilizing Italy for the least money, hence the lack of proper cooling and the poxy engine, quite a piece of design and very cute but not built to last.
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