RE: PH Blog: noise matters

[Mastodon2]

Grovsie26 said:

Would ruin it. Get a kakimoto Regu 06. Real screamer in VTEC. Not boomy or basy or chav around town at all. Quality bit of kit.

R32's sound nice!

The Kakimoto Regu 06 is a 92db exhaust - the same as the standard EP3 exhaust. Far too quiet for really having fun, though I can see the appeal in Japan where noise output is strictly regulated.

[Grovsie26]

Mastodon2 said:

The Kakimoto Regu 06 is a 92db exhaust - the same as the standard EP3 exhaust. Far too quiet for really having fun, though I can see the appeal in Japan where noise output is strictly regulated.

have you heard one? Or are you a 22 year old chav who thinks louder is better? Maybe there measuring equipment is different in Japan lol, but it sounds a hell of a lot louder than a stock EP3 especially in VTEC which is what counts, trust me, i had one.

Spoon N1's, J's racing, the loud buddyclubs are all to loud and you just look like a chav prick. Might as well be a saxslow with a dustbin on.

Edited by Grovsie26 on Saturday 3rd March 00:13

[Mastodon2]

Grovsie26 said:

have you heard one?

Unfortunately I don't have any headphones with me right now and I'm on a laptop so I could not do it justice. Is it louder than it's "JASMA compliant" advertising suggests? The Mugen Twinloop and Toda systems are also compliant with JASMA but are imo, way too quiet to be a hooner. Great if you want the extra gas flow to enable power upgrades, but not something I'd want, even if the tone is good. I prefer a combination of volume and tone, rather than one but not the other. Many users on Type R owners forums have stated that the Mugen Twinloop, Toda and FEELs 92db systems are exactly as described - 92db, no louder or quieter than a standard Civic.

Ok, you've shown your true colours now. As I said above, volume and tone, both are required for a good exhaust, not one or the other. Japanese performance cars have a history of being loud and in your face compared to European performance cars - if that is not something you want to be associated with then perhaps a diesel Volvo would be more to your taste?

Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 3rd March 00:18

[otolith]

mastodon2 said:

As I said above, volume and tone, both are required for a good exhaust, not one or the other.

That's really a statement of taste rather than an absolute truth. I've replaced a couple of exhausts for tone, but in both cases I was careful not to make it any louder than I had to. I don't want a car that's unpleasantly loud at cruising speed or embarrassingly antisocial.

[Mastodon2]

otolith said:

That's really a statement of taste rather than an absolute truth. I've replaced a couple of exhausts for tone, but in both cases I was careful not to make it any louder than I had to. I don't want a car that's unpleasantly loud at cruising speed or embarrassingly antisocial.

It is indeed, but I was just countering his opinion with mine - "Spoon N1's, J's racing, the loud buddyclubs are all to loud and you just look like a chav prick. Might as well be a saxslow with a dustbin on" is hardly based on fact either.

Imo, a good exhaust on Volvo T5 would be something with a good tone but little volume. On a Japanese performance car, which as I mentioned above tend to be a bit lairy anyway, something loud and toneful is more apt. Just my opinion of course, but I refute the "chav" tag!

[FRA53R]

There are many great noises but I'd like to big up a couple of lesser followed ones. My first would have to be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAQOapfmPyg,
Second: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucjHKkbpJeA
Third: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazLThkWNQo
but my favourite is very well known : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qju9iEFqp3Y

[thebrush8]

When I got my BMW 730, I was disappointed that the V8 sound was muted, felt a little cheated! As it needed replacing anyway, I took it to longlife who fitted a stainless cat-back system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysom8HfkdFg

Since that video, I have had it de-catted as well, still passed the MOT no problems! I'll find that video...

My neighbours I'm sure hate me as I leave at 6:45am...

[Alex]

MiseryStreak said:

Two of my personal offerings: Honda Integra DC2 Type-R with the lid of the airbox removed, I found this out by accident after replacing the filter, then had to go for a drive with the lid off. For some reason, the harmonics are just perfect and when it hits VTEC at 6,000rpm at full throttle opening it has the most glorious induction sound I've ever heard on a road car.

I have had my DC2 for 8 years and I've never tried this (heads outside...)

[LuS1fer]

thebrush8 said:

When I got my BMW 730, I was disappointed that the V8 sound was muted, felt a little cheated! As it needed replacing anyway, I took it to longlife who fitted a stainless cat-back system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysom8HfkdFg

Since that video, I have had it de-catted as well, still passed the MOT no problems! I'll find that video...

My neighbours I'm sure hate me as I leave at 6:45am...

That sounds great and the very antithesis of a 7 series. Odd how diffeent V8s can sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIyi08SPys

[slarnge]

Loved the sound of our Vr6,best of all in the tunnels going to Lemans!!

[Grovsie26]

Mastodon2 said:

Unfortunately I don't have any headphones with me right now and I'm on a laptop so I could not do it justice. Is it louder than it's "JASMA compliant" advertising suggests? The Mugen Twinloop and Toda systems are also compliant with JASMA but are imo, way too quiet to be a hooner. Great if you want the extra gas flow to enable power upgrades, but not something I'd want, even if the tone is good. I prefer a combination of volume and tone, rather than one but not the other. Many users on Type R owners forums have stated that the Mugen Twinloop, Toda and FEELs 92db systems are exactly as described - 92db, no louder or quieter than a standard Civic.

Ok, you've shown your true colours now. As I said above, volume and tone, both are required for a good exhaust, not one or the other. Japanese performance cars have a history of being loud and in your face compared to European performance cars - if that is not something you want to be associated with then perhaps a diesel Volvo would be more to your taste?

Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 3rd March 00:18

Headphones?

I mean have you heard one? Actually on a car in real life? you know that thing away from your keyboard?

I had one on my DC5 for a year, and it's anything but near EP3 OEM levels lol.

[tommy vercetti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fIF6Nh7gCo

[errek72]

I love the sound of a Matra V12,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS1_G_dl6xA&fea...

a Dino V6 brought me my first tears of joy when I was six

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3bBSf8EF0&fea...

but the one I'm really in love with is a proper Alfa V8

As per a racing Montreal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFm166ov-E

Or a Stradale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UtQMISwfw

[Snowlife]

The noise of a car can put a smile on your face every day.
I miss my old JDM Legacy GT (with an exhaust pipe the size of a saucepan!), every morning starting up to that lovely burrble, hearing the turbo waking up over 2000rpm before it kicks in. The turbo timer keeping it going for 30secs as I walked away after parking.
Miss it so much in the sensible diesel.
Bring back the flat-4 burble!!
The next car will need to sound special, my son needs to experience the joy I had every day with that beast

[Mastodon2]

Grovsie26 said:

Headphones?

I mean have you heard one? Actually on a car in real life? you know that thing away from your keyboard?

I had one on my DC5 for a year, and it's anything but near EP3 OEM levels lol.

Yes headphones, you know, those things you put in your ear to listen to music and such with - they give much fuller frequency response than tinny laptop tweeter speakers, so you can actually hear any video you are listening to properly.

As for the Kakimoto Regus, no, as it's a very rare exhaust I have not heard one in person. Perhaps your car had been modified in other ways but I have heard other so-called jasma compliant exhausts in person and they aren't really loud at all. Louder than your average Mondeo, as any CTR or ITR is, but certainly not approaching anything like hooligan levels of noise. Proper straight through catbacks, which regularly output noise in the 104-105db range, are much, much louder than any jasma system I've heard. But then again, that is point of jasma, to comply with the strict noise emissions laws in Japan, and that's where the big market for exhausts that are freer-flowing but not louder than OEM is, they are obviously less popular in Europe where there is less restriction and policing on noise emissions on cars after they have left the showroom.

On the other side of the coin, Japan has also produced the best of the loud bunch too, when they are making something that they know will be too loud for track noise limits and far too loud to be anything close to jasma compliant - in fact I tend to think their offerings just sound better than anyone else's, the seriously loud stuff like Spec IIs, Nur Specs etc, they are just brilliant.

[designforlife]

i drive a 1.6 mk2 mx5 with a big old jap can on the back,ridiculously loud...it sounds like a scooby but makes me smile whenever i drive it, and tunnels are great fun.

I don't really mind that the speed doesn't match the noise, the car is still fun to drive.

[Grovsie26]

Nope, no other mods, just the catback. Well you need to hear one before you can comment. Sure it's not hooligan levels, it's not a straight through pipe, i leave that for chavs in there saxo's and 1.4 fiesta's.

It's just a great noise, and so suited to screaming VTEC.

[Panayiotis]

I had a 200sx track car with a relatively quiet exhuast that thought it was a flame thrower . Now the noise that came out the back wasnt too bad, but I wouldnt call it intoxicating, but the noise coming from the front and the intake/turbo spooling up was, esepcially when coupled with the speedo's rapid movement.

On my current DD S2000, all I have done is changed the intake and at higher revs it sounds downright immoral!

[Ftumpch]

I’ve never been able to get over the sound my Alfasud used to make while pedalling it around the dark and deserted city streets, which is mainly what my first job as a pizza boy consisted of. They used to pay me per delivery. Faster deliveries, more money, more up-shifts at 6000rpm. Best job I’ve ever had!

The most fabulous noise ever though has got to be Mika Hakkinen’s McLaren Mercedes, circa 1999. It produced a high-pitched wail that you could hear above the noise of the rest of the F1 paddock, so loud you could feel your internal organs being grated inside your chest. Aural MDMA!

[Martin 480 Turbo]

That's quiete a coincidence, having two guys on opposite
sides of the globe doing the same (sensible) thing.

Pizza delivery boy was not my first job, but I took the
offer of a friend at the time to moonlight as a pizza taxi
driver in the evening (after my first "real" job), just
because I loved driving that Sud Sprint so much.

After some time I realised though, that I lost money with
every mile I delivered... (high gas prices in Germany, even
back then).

martin 480 Turbo