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Bacchus
429 posts
153 months
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Mark Benson said: My dad's just given me all his old issues (from issue 1 to... well, I'll tell you in about 2 weeks when I'm finished going though them) as they're downsizing and my mum's made him clear the loft.
My wife's over the moon we've got a bit of extra 'insulation' in our loft now and I keep popping up to bring down another bundle of old magazines.  I also have every issue, but I stopped my subscription last year, because their title stories started to bore me! Especially in the last few years on (almost) every cover was an MG or an Alfa or a Ferrari preferabily in red... I know that a magazine sells better if you try to cover a larger group of enthusiasts but... and I am even more fed up with their stories like "10 open top cars for the summer", "more fun for less", "bargain thrills"... I hardly believe that they drive and test the cars for that sort of article!! I would be interested to hear from you when you look through your "insulation"  where the good years start and end (concerning their stories) For me it's from +/-1997 to +/- 2002 cheers Yves
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Twincam16
27,206 posts
127 months
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JS100 said: Best looking car there by a mile is the Esprit. Tragic that the manufacturers around it in the pic have gone on to be hugely successful and Lotus has withered on the vine. Wasted talent IMO. Yeah, 'cause DeLorean and Alpine dominate the market don't they. If only Lotus had the foresight to develop a small, back-to-basics mid-engined roadster with an innovative extruded-aluminium chassis, then upscale the recipe into supercar territory with a kind of modular architecture based on the same aluminium technology, they might still be around today, not only making their own cars, but also helping other manufacturers out with theirs. Such a sad waste 
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LotusOmega375D
2,107 posts
22 months
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30th anniversary? They could have at least tested them on the Falkland Islands.
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LotusOmega375D
2,107 posts
22 months
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Bacchus said:  I also have every issue, but I stopped my subscription last year, because their title stories started to bore me! Especially in the last few years on (almost) every cover was an MG or an Alfa or a Ferrari preferabily in red... I know that a magazine sells better if you try to cover a larger group of enthusiasts but... and I am even more fed up with their stories like "10 open top cars for the summer", "more fun for less", "bargain thrills"... I hardly believe that they drive and test the cars for that sort of article!! I would be interested to hear from you when you look through your "insulation"  where the good years start and end (concerning their stories) For me it's from +/-1997 to +/- 2002 cheers Yves The C&SC Ferrari Daytona Spyder vs. Maserati Ghibli Spyder issue got me into buying classic car mags ca. 1986/7. I've bought one or the other classic mag pretty much every month ever since. As a result of this I now know everything about every car made in the 20th century. Well almost...
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Frimley111R
4,204 posts
103 months
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Slightly depressing. Lotus look right up there as Ferrari competitors. Where did it all go so wrong 
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Streetrod
4,978 posts
75 months
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Popups!! 
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Alastair C
8 posts
47 months
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williamp said: Anyhow, great shot. And can I be the first to start the "what, no....." thread divert with the V8 Vantage: No Aston Vantage because we had an imaginary budget of £25k. Struggle to get even a V8 for that now...
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Twincam16
27,206 posts
127 months
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Frimley111R said: Slightly depressing. Lotus look right up there as Ferrari competitors. Where did it all go so wrong  It didn't really. There's nothing wrong with the cars even today, and once the new range is out there'll be even less to complain about on that front. I think it's perception that's changed. Back in 1982, even though the country was riddled with strikes and we still made Austin Allegros, people still bought British and were proud to do so. Sticking up for the underdog was an integral part of Britishness because we believed in fair play and giving everyone a fair shot. Nowadays we seem to have become a lazy nation happy to bung money towards ever-greedier monopolies in order to make our lives easier. If a firm makes a car that's the slightest bit demanding or different, rather than being drawn to it, we not only slag it off on the internet, we actually wish death on the company and redundancy on the employees in a kind of 'I told you so' act of social Darwinism. We want to be seen to be on the 'winning' side even if that victory actually hurts the country's economy because at some point we lost that gritty, sarcastic British sense of humour and adopted the corporate-American one, in which arrogance is 'justified' and there's humour in identifying and mocking 'losers'. Interestingly, in other countries Lotus is still seen as a rare and desirable exotic, especially in America, where the Esprit always sold well - they even got versions we didn't, like the X180R racer and the Jim Clark edition. The Evora is quietly meeting its sales targets, it's just in other countries. Over here, we sneer at our own products, overlooking such important attributes as 'handling' and 'fun' and agonising at great length over how the doors sound when they close, and the sound your knuckles make when you rap them on some part of trim you wouldn't ordinarily even touch unless you were seeking to make a point. Our motoring press has dished out all manner of awards to Lotus, but we've fetishised German cars, especially Porsche, BMW and Audi to such an absurd degree we're in danger of overlooking positive attributes in cars designed in Britain with British roads and drivers in mind that the German manufacturers don't even bother with.
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AndrewW-G
11,968 posts
86 months
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Frimley111R said: Slightly depressing. Lotus look right up there as Ferrari competitors. Where did it all go so wrong  As far as most people would be concerned, Ferrari moved on visually from the 308 all the way through to the 360, whilst with the exception of the Peter Stevens update and a few aero tweaks, the Esprit didn’t change a great deal in the same time period, so they went from being a credible 3X8 / 911 Turbo competitor, to something that didn’t quite keep up with the changing times . . . . Which is a shame as they were a good car. If they do manage to build the new Esprit, I can see it being a credible alternative to the lower Ferrari / Maserati products within a few years
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M666 EVO
851 posts
31 months
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Its nice to look at a collection of amazing cars and think 'I have owned one of those'. It was the XJS. I had a V12 HE and sold it as I had no room for it for 2k, worse thing I ever done as it was mint... 
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Greenwich Ross
1,215 posts
42 months
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Out of interest; what are they charging for this slab of automotive porn?
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Riggers
1,841 posts
47 months
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Greenwich Ross said: Out of interest; what are they charging for this slab of automotive porn? Telephone directory on my desk says £4.70 
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LotusOmega375D
2,107 posts
22 months
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Riggers said: Greenwich Ross said: Out of interest; what are they charging for this slab of automotive porn? Telephone directory on my desk says £4.70  That's a few shillings more than 1982 then. 
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vixen1700
6,436 posts
139 months
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Riggers said: Telephone directory on my desk says £4.70  Worth it just for the shot of Justin Bank's Facel II by the Eiffel Tower.  Also some mega cars for sale in this issue including JD Classics Coombs MKII Jag, BUY 1 the Coombs demonstrator. Where do they get these cars from, they had a couple of Jim Clark Lotus Cortinas a few months back. 
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soad
15,862 posts
45 months
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Wow, what a photo! 
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tomoleeds
342 posts
55 months
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i am the odd one out here, not a big fan of any of them cars in the photo
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MX7
6,537 posts
43 months
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tomoleeds said: i am the odd one out here, not a big fan of any of them cars in the photo Are you sure you're on the right forum?! Go on then. It's 1982 and you can have any 9 cars. What are they?
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AndrewW-G
11,968 posts
86 months
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MX7 said: Go on then. It's 1982 and you can have any 9 cars. What are they? At 1982 prices, I'll have half a dozen 250 GTO & 3 alloy bodied SWB 
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rs48635
544 posts
83 months
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LotusOmega375D said: 30th anniversary? They could have at least tested them on the Falkland Islands. quality. Are you Max Hastings bay any chance?
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jamesatcandsc
120 posts
25 months
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