RE: PH buying guide: Honda NSX

RE: PH buying guide: Honda NSX

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Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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havoc said:
FI was a step backwards vs carbs, in many ways, and DI seems to be doubly so...

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Carbs? Really?

The level of control and ability afforded by fuel injection is far superior to carbs.


havoc

30,072 posts

235 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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In terms of sound, I meant - that was the post I was commenting on.

Otherwise, yes, EFI is a wonderful thing.

bigaoi

128 posts

157 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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> While we're all pic whoring, here's my '95 purple targa.
Saw one like this trickling in traffic on it's way into Winchester a year or so ago. Looked just lovely.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Devil2575 said:
havoc said:
FI was a step backwards vs carbs, in many ways, and DI seems to be doubly so...

frown
Carbs? Really?

The level of control and ability afforded by fuel injection is far superior to carbs.
I remember when I worked at Citroen the AX GT with carbs was replaced by the injection model*, the carb model was a fun raucous little car, the replacement smoother, quieter, well mannered, slower and dull.
Thats the good bit about the vtec in the Honda, gives the car a bit of character having a 'second stage' like when a carb opens another jet. could do with the occasional cough and fart of a carb, but not the sitting on the side of the road due to a minuscule spec of dirt blocking a jet..

*I'm getting on a bit, I remember when woo woos were nee nahs.

indi pearl

319 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Here are a couple of my 1996 Targa that I have owned for 5 years. It took 3 years to find and since buying it with 22,000 on the clock I have put on another 11,000. The first owner (I am only the 3rd) paid £76,000 new!!
1996 cars had a big advantage over their predessesors as they were fitted with the low ratio gearbox as fitted to the NA1typeR giving them considerably faster 0-100, sub 5 seconds 0-60 times.
In 5 years service and consumables have been just short of £2,000 and nothing has broken or failed.
These cars come up so rarly simply because once you own one you just will not let it go. Best car by far I have ever driven or owned in 43 years of driving mainly performance sports cars.
[url]|http://thumbsnap.com/oXVywxxL




Edited by indi pearl on Sunday 4th March 10:48

diddly69

695 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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stefan1 said:
A wonderful car. I've been lucky enough to own one for the last 15 months; I've done about 5,000 miles and I love it. The engine note when the VTEC kicks in is to die for. I love the fact that the engine has just the right amount of power - you can use most, if not all, of it most of the time, unlike some modern cars that are just too fast in some ways.

The handling is the perfect antidote to someone who drives 911s a lot, with that sublime feel that comes from a mid mounted engine. The one surprise when I bought my car was how slow the steering is - it requires a lot of turning! But on the plus side it gives great straight line stability and real delicacy mid bend.

The looks are still great, although the overhangs are a bit dated.

Here's the car out in the countryside last summer.






Such a nice car, I shall be on the the look out around Goodwood for that lovely NSX! smile

Charge99

129 posts

174 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Question, who'd take and decent late NSX over an F355 and why? (note it's not meant to be a loaded question, I'm interested, especially those who've driven both) It's amazing how few NSX's for sale at any time given how many F355's there are, were there really that few built relative to the 355? Having kindly been given a ride in a track focussed NSX at Vmax, it seemed a good car, was surprised that it was quite a bit faster than my S2000, although an extra litre of capacity has to help!

indi pearl

319 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I did, and still do consider the F355 as the most beautiful of all Ferraris. The NSX, whilst arguably not as perfectly formed is of similar performance, much better engineered, more user friendly (the boot is big enough for a weekend away for two), and far less costly to maintain for standard service needs.
With regard to rarity it would appear that as of September last year there were only 301 NSX's on the road (49 more on SORN)and this would include a fair proportion of the less sought after auto's. By comparison it would seem there are about 1,400 F355's of the various types still on the road or SORNED making them a much more common car than the NSX.
Yes, the NSX is noticably quicker than a S2000 but I still love a run up to 9,000rpm in my wifes with the roof and windows down

Edited by indi pearl on Sunday 4th March 12:23

collateral

7,238 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Saw a pair of silver ones blasting up the m23 a few Sundays ago. Anyone on here?

pacificf1

92 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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how come the high mileage silver auto that has been for sale a while has not got a mention?

Lexual

511 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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....Do we have a winner?








havoc

30,072 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Charge99 said:
Question, who'd take and decent late NSX over an F355 and why? (note it's not meant to be a loaded question, I'm interested, especially those who've driven both) It's amazing how few NSX's for sale at any time given how many F355's there are, were there really that few built relative to the 355?
As above, there's a lot more 355's in the country.

To your question - probably depends on what the owner wants to do with the car (NSX notably more practical - it's every-day usable, if you so wanted), and how deep their pockets are for maintenance - I'd wager the 355 will cost 2-3x as much to run as the NSX, like-for-like, and if you're looking at, say, £40k, then the Fezza will probably be leggier and older, while the NSX will be <10y.o. and low mileage...

So if you can afford a £40k car, but can't afford Ferrari running costs, then an NA2 NSX becomes an alternative to an M3 or Cayman...

silver surfer

480 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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How often do you see a Ferrari with >60K miles on the clock for sale....You regularly see 'higher' mileage NSXs and yet they are still on their first engine with no rebuild history!!

There have been NSXs run above 150K miles with no problem as long as the service schedule is followed with no need for major new engines parts in the NSX forums in the UK and the US.

SS

Some more pics...

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Edited by silver surfer on Sunday 4th March 16:05

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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silver surfer said:
How often do you see a Ferrari with >60K miles on the clock for sale....You regularly see 'higher' mileage NSXs and yet they are still on their first engine with no rebuild history!!

There have been NSXs run above 150K miles with no problem as long as the service schedule is followed with no need for major new engines parts in the NSX forums in the UK and the US.

SS

(A US car).

silver surfer

480 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I'm sure everyone is getting bored of NSX's by now with a guide every five minutes..
But anyhow, here is another example of the cars comparative dinkyness:

tommy vercetti

11,489 posts

163 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Great cars, one of the most underrated supercars ever, and one of the greatest Japanese cars ever made.

Gompo

4,413 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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pacificf1 said:
how come the high mileage silver auto that has been for sale a while has not got a mention?
Because it's an Auto, I expect. I certainly wouldn't want one.

havoc

30,072 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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stephen300o said:
I'm sure everyone is getting bored of NSX's by now with a guide every five minutes..
But anyhow, here is another example of the cars comparative dinkyness:
And yes the weird thing is you've tons of elbow-room inside, unlike the S2000 which felt cosy with two average people in it.


Does make you wonder why modern cars are getting so wide...

dinkel

26,951 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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tommy vercetti said:
Great cars, one of the most underrated supercars ever, and one of the greatest Japanese cars ever made.
THE say . . . a S2000 is the quicker car to throw around a track.

Anyone?