Re: PH Blog: Golf GTD eight years apart
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donutsina911 said:
That seems like a super low MPG? My 54 plate GT TDI 140 is showing 53.3 average this week and that's a mix of a bit of in town and two 40 mile round trip commutes up the A3...30's sounds way off?
Honest guv, it's what the computer told me. I got into the 40's once, briefly. Must be my heroic driving style....but I was trying my best.
I 'borrowed' pops' '06 GT TDI last weekend and averaged about 35mpg, he regularly sees 45 round the doors and 55-60 on a run so I ended up driving as gentle as possible for the last 20 mins to get the mpg back up before handing it back so he didn't know I'd thrashed the b
ks off it!
Nice cars to drive, strangely, I sort of like the noise the engine makes when you drive it hard
ks off it!Nice cars to drive, strangely, I sort of like the noise the engine makes when you drive it hard
I have a 2002 E39 530d Touring for my daily runner. Just started commuting 75 miles each way, 150 mile round trip. Mixture of M1, M25, M4 and a couple of inner-town roads. Driving between 65 and 70 mph.
Over the last few days my car has averaged between 48.7 and 49.5 mpg. Smooth six-cylinder engine, quiet cabin, plenty of power there when needed, superb build quality. All this, or a clattery 4-pot diesel, plastic cabin and which looks and sounds like every other car on the motorway...
...I know what I would rather be in. To me, Golf / Audi diesels are way overrated, and not worth the money they command, especially when they don't even deliver the economy everyone thinks they should.....
The smaller VAGs are all good around town, but on a longer run, a six-cylinder diesel will be much more refined and deliver as good as, if not, better fuel economy.
All IMHO, of course!
Over the last few days my car has averaged between 48.7 and 49.5 mpg. Smooth six-cylinder engine, quiet cabin, plenty of power there when needed, superb build quality. All this, or a clattery 4-pot diesel, plastic cabin and which looks and sounds like every other car on the motorway...
...I know what I would rather be in. To me, Golf / Audi diesels are way overrated, and not worth the money they command, especially when they don't even deliver the economy everyone thinks they should.....
The smaller VAGs are all good around town, but on a longer run, a six-cylinder diesel will be much more refined and deliver as good as, if not, better fuel economy.
All IMHO, of course!
dukebox9reg said:
You really don't know how to drive it then. My 140pd leon dsg is AMD mapped (185bhp and 300lb/ft) and my run to work which is a 1/3 town, 1/3 A14 and a 1/3 back roads totalling a round trip of 40miles a day i easily manage 48-49 mpg and thats with a serious prod of the throttle now and then.
At a steady 70mph(gps not speedo as 70 gps is around 75mph on my speedo) i get over 50mpg. Something wrong with your leon?
Recent run to Brummy at 50mph due to heavy traffic i avg 65mpg.
I'm perfectly capable of driving it to achieve high MPG thanks very much, but it simply won't return what i'd regard as "good" figures.At a steady 70mph(gps not speedo as 70 gps is around 75mph on my speedo) i get over 50mpg. Something wrong with your leon?
Recent run to Brummy at 50mph due to heavy traffic i avg 65mpg.
Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 7th March 10:17
On a recent run from Peterborough to Sleaford on the A15 it averaged 43 mpg. That was with me pushing on a bit at around 70 mph on some of the nice stretches, but i was by no means thrashing it.
It went back to the dealer when we first got it because i was convinced something was wrong, but apparently not.
Having said all of that, i did 450 miles in it on Sunday, 200 of which was with a brian james trailer attached to the back, and 200 was with a caterham on the trailer. It did 38mpg over that distance, which i'd consider acceptable!!!
I have a 2006 GT TDI 170 DSG. Monumentally good car ... and the DSG box is really well suited to the engine. Really flies on that "constant wave of torque" that Garlick mentioned.
MPG really does vary with driving style and conditions. I live in a village at the top of a hill and get around 40 mpg just knocking around locally.
If I drive the 40 miles to Manchester in a hurry for an appointment it returns about 44mpg. I tried an experiment and kept below 70 all the way back from Manchester last week and returned just over 50mpg.
Incidentally .... the car was subject to a recall recently to replace all four fuel injectors (at more than £400 each would you believe ... FOC for the recall though!) and the fuel economy has improved by about 10% since the work was done.
Great car .... mine's even the same colour!
MPG really does vary with driving style and conditions. I live in a village at the top of a hill and get around 40 mpg just knocking around locally.
If I drive the 40 miles to Manchester in a hurry for an appointment it returns about 44mpg. I tried an experiment and kept below 70 all the way back from Manchester last week and returned just over 50mpg.
Incidentally .... the car was subject to a recall recently to replace all four fuel injectors (at more than £400 each would you believe ... FOC for the recall though!) and the fuel economy has improved by about 10% since the work was done.
Great car .... mine's even the same colour!
pSyCoSiS said:
I have a 2002 E39 530d Touring for my daily runner. Just started commuting 75 miles each way, 150 mile round trip. Mixture of M1, M25, M4 and a couple of inner-town roads. Driving between 65 and 70 mph.
Over the last few days my car has averaged between 48.7 and 49.5 mpg. Smooth six-cylinder engine, quiet cabin, plenty of power there when needed, superb build quality. All this, or a clattery 4-pot diesel, plastic cabin and which looks and sounds like every other car on the motorway...
...I know what I would rather be in. To me, Golf / Audi diesels are way overrated, and not worth the money they command, especially when they don't even deliver the economy everyone thinks they should.....
The smaller VAGs are all good around town, but on a longer run, a six-cylinder diesel will be much more refined and deliver as good as, if not, better fuel economy.
All IMHO, of course!
I agree completely. I test drove a Golf MK 4 Tdi 130, an Audi A4 Tdi 110 and a Passat Tdi and in the end I came to the conclusion that the Volvo S60 D5 I test drove first was the best car. Over the last few days my car has averaged between 48.7 and 49.5 mpg. Smooth six-cylinder engine, quiet cabin, plenty of power there when needed, superb build quality. All this, or a clattery 4-pot diesel, plastic cabin and which looks and sounds like every other car on the motorway...
...I know what I would rather be in. To me, Golf / Audi diesels are way overrated, and not worth the money they command, especially when they don't even deliver the economy everyone thinks they should.....
The smaller VAGs are all good around town, but on a longer run, a six-cylinder diesel will be much more refined and deliver as good as, if not, better fuel economy.
All IMHO, of course!
They were all the same price there or there abouts with the Golfs commanding more money than similar Passats but with less kit. The Volvo also won on this front too with leather and a whole load of toys as standard. I get 50 mpg if I stick to the NSL on the motorways on my 40 mile each way commute with 6 miles of town in there too.
The VAGs of similar vintage may return slightly better figures its not that much of a difference and the extra comfort and extra oomph offered by an extra cylinder and an extra 500cc over the VAG units more that makes up for it!
bmw120d said:
NEVER GOT THE GOLF THING!!!
BUT AS FOR JUICE AND FIGURES
2006 120D ………. Should do 50+ …. Got in three years 32.5mpg
2009 TSI Sirocco ……. Should do 37?? ….. With remap got low teens to single figures
2011 C180 bluefficiency…. Should do 45+ … getting 35+
Can't vouch for the Beemer or the Merc but as far as the VW goes: you must have a bad remap, you're constantly in traffic jame or you're constantly driving your Scirocco at the rev limiter. That's woeful mpg.BUT AS FOR JUICE AND FIGURES
2006 120D ………. Should do 50+ …. Got in three years 32.5mpg
2009 TSI Sirocco ……. Should do 37?? ….. With remap got low teens to single figures
2011 C180 bluefficiency…. Should do 45+ … getting 35+
Never had a VW before so when the opportunity came along took it with both hands, plus hadn’t anything sporty to drive since the wife and kids came along (you know the script!!!)
The car looked great but within a day it was back at VW with a burnt out wheel bearing and shredded tyre, after a two day wait to sort out, got the thing back and at the time it was freezing up here so off we went to the lakes for a day out. The car started over revving so much so I was fiscally looking at the peddle to see if it was jammed!! Switch the car off and fire it up again it was ok for few miles, so next day back to VW, that afternoon call from VW to say they were ordering some parts for the air box that were missing !!
As the weather got better so did the car but on cold morning there was still a hint of over run, so in the summer 2009 the car was remapped this sorted all the overrun problems and was like a missile (well to me it was fast) but after the first week I noticed that £30 of juice was only lasting 3 days not a week as the norm, and as I did not pay the fuel bill not a problem!!
After 2 years circumstances changed and I was footing the fuel bill so the remap was remove to try and save some pennies but once again the overrun problem started again so it was time to get rid and never again !!!
Ps did get a rather snotty email from the accounts department over the £1160 of tyres used in the first year!!
The car looked great but within a day it was back at VW with a burnt out wheel bearing and shredded tyre, after a two day wait to sort out, got the thing back and at the time it was freezing up here so off we went to the lakes for a day out. The car started over revving so much so I was fiscally looking at the peddle to see if it was jammed!! Switch the car off and fire it up again it was ok for few miles, so next day back to VW, that afternoon call from VW to say they were ordering some parts for the air box that were missing !!
As the weather got better so did the car but on cold morning there was still a hint of over run, so in the summer 2009 the car was remapped this sorted all the overrun problems and was like a missile (well to me it was fast) but after the first week I noticed that £30 of juice was only lasting 3 days not a week as the norm, and as I did not pay the fuel bill not a problem!!
After 2 years circumstances changed and I was footing the fuel bill so the remap was remove to try and save some pennies but once again the overrun problem started again so it was time to get rid and never again !!!
Ps did get a rather snotty email from the accounts department over the £1160 of tyres used in the first year!!
bmw120d said:
NEVER GOT THE GOLF THING!!!
BUT AS FOR JUICE AND FIGURES
2006 120D ………. Should do 50+ …. Got in three years 32.5mpg
2009 TSI Sirocco ……. Should do 37?? ….. With remap got low teens to single figures
2011 C180 bluefficiency…. Should do 45+ … getting 35+
WHY ARE WE SHOUTINGBUT AS FOR JUICE AND FIGURES
2006 120D ………. Should do 50+ …. Got in three years 32.5mpg
2009 TSI Sirocco ……. Should do 37?? ….. With remap got low teens to single figures
2011 C180 bluefficiency…. Should do 45+ … getting 35+
Nothing much worse than having to run a VAG 4 cylinder diesel - horrible horrible things.
Noisy rattly rough unpleasant engines.
Last one I had was a 2007 Td170 Gti DSG - horrible thing to run, quite often saw it down to mid 30's driven hard up on A roads, narrow power band, runs out of rev's quite quickly, noisy in stop start traffic, jerky with the DSG in traffic. A hugely over-rated car. Buy a 330d instead.
Noisy rattly rough unpleasant engines.
Last one I had was a 2007 Td170 Gti DSG - horrible thing to run, quite often saw it down to mid 30's driven hard up on A roads, narrow power band, runs out of rev's quite quickly, noisy in stop start traffic, jerky with the DSG in traffic. A hugely over-rated car. Buy a 330d instead.
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