VAG TDI 1.9 PD engine failures
Discussion
Mr2Mike said:
Interesting. Peugeot had the same problem with a load of their 1.9XUD engines that suffered from con rod failure. It was rumoured they had fitted the wrong rods (from the normally aspirated version) to a batch of engines.
Remember hearing about that one alright - however - i thought it was to do with the fact that Peugeot were fitting EGR valves to later 1.9 XUD (turbodiesels) to meet emissions requirements etc and that the EGR valves were to blame.Could be wrong though.
Sir Fergie
I heard it was related to a misbuild with the wrong conrods, but who knows. Peugeot officially denied all knowledge of the problem.
My missus had one of the last XUD equipped 306 D-Turbos with the affected engine code, but hers had best part of 100k on it when we chopped it in for an MX-5 and was still running fine. Naturally I only read up about this issue after we'd bought the thing
My missus had one of the last XUD equipped 306 D-Turbos with the affected engine code, but hers had best part of 100k on it when we chopped it in for an MX-5 and was still running fine. Naturally I only read up about this issue after we'd bought the thing
From my research so far it is a group of BXE, 1.9tdi, 105bhp engines fitted to 57 and 08 plate VAG vehicles, possibly straying to 07 plates. It is possible that it continues on to newer cars as it seems that most have gone in the last 6 months. I am furthering research as I can't afford another engine. I am about to send VW he following questionnaire
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Janet Bracks said:
From my research so far it is a group of BXE, 1.9tdi, 105bhp engines fitted to 57 and 08 plate VAG vehicles, possibly straying to 07 plates. It is possible that it continues on to newer cars as it seems that most have gone in the last 6 months. I am furthering research as I can't afford another engine. I am about to send VW he following questionnaire
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Good luck getting that answered by anyone at VW.Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Janet Bracks said:
From my research so far it is a group of BXE, 1.9tdi, 105bhp engines fitted to 57 and 08 plate VAG vehicles, possibly straying to 07 plates. It is possible that it continues on to newer cars as it seems that most have gone in the last 6 months. I am furthering research as I can't afford another engine. I am about to send VW he following questionnaire
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Selfishly I hope you are right.Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Limpet said:
131,000 miles on our Golf TDI PD 130 mk4 (ASZ engine). Never let us down in 5 years and 60k. Just service it once a year, and drive it. Tremendously reliable motor.
This - ASZ Engine PD130 in my Bora just clocked 167k and going strong. I was worried when reading about putting in fuel additives as I haven't long gone through a bottle of Redex on 2 consecutive tanks. I must say I notices and improvement in MPG whilst running it.
63k, 2.5 years old so hardly out of warranty. Absolutely nothing from vw so im afraid your unlikely to get anywhere. mine is an 09 so not just until 08, hoping the 2012 new engine is unaffected. Remanufactured engines are about 2-3k but they must have the same engine code unless you swap the ecu too.Google this forum, there's another thread with more info and if you Google bxs/bxe there is some more including one person who had 2 go in under 100k....
At 105k miles now and remanufactured engine seems fine(touching wood) but dual mass flywheel and gearbox have just failed- £3008 bill. I wonder if engine failing could have caused the problem but that was 40k ago so doubt it. Would advise everyone to think carefully before buying a VAG product as I can only believe their quality control is extremely poor as is their attitude. Not a mistake I will be making again!!
mclwanB said:
At 105k miles now and remanufactured engine seems fine(touching wood) but dual mass flywheel and gearbox have just failed- £3008 bill. I wonder if engine failing could have caused the problem but that was 40k ago so doubt it. Would advise everyone to think carefully before buying a VAG product as I can only believe their quality control is extremely poor as is their attitude. Not a mistake I will be making again!!
Huh odd. Dual mass flywheel failing could damage gearbox I suppose.Tallbutbuxomly said:
Huh odd. Dual mass flywheel failing could damage gearbox I suppose.
Not according to all the googling I did but who knows. Was a weak link in older Octavia s apparently. Not good enough without a reason to fail- dual mass flywheel just a bit noisy rather than fragmented so really doubt that linkI know one of the garages local to us has had a few of the 150PS TDi engined Golfs in for knackered camshafts. Soft as s
t, apparently.
Otherwise I know not much of big failures, only that I used to sell stloads of injectors, air flow meters, turbos...you name it...when I was a parts monkey at ECP way back when. Certainly a high number of components like those as opposed to the Swedish and French stuff which only ever seemed to require service bits. Mind you, the BMW 4-pot diesel lumps were hot on the injector front too.
t, apparently.Otherwise I know not much of big failures, only that I used to sell s
tloads of injectors, air flow meters, turbos...you name it...when I was a parts monkey at ECP way back when. Certainly a high number of components like those as opposed to the Swedish and French stuff which only ever seemed to require service bits. Mind you, the BMW 4-pot diesel lumps were hot on the injector front too.Sorry to resurrect this thread. My Golf has the BXE engine which I'm learning isn't as dependable as I first thought.
The car was purchased nearly a year ago from VW main dealer and I've just had a renewal invite for the warranty. I'm tempted to renew just the drivetrain warranty for a couple of hundred quid, but wondered whether anyone has successfully claimed for a BXE engine failure (on any warranty).
The warranty in question has the usual t&c's about wear and tear etc and I'm concerned that a claim could be refused on these grounds. If that's a likelihood I'll save my money and take my chances.
Any advice / thoughts much appreciated.
The car was purchased nearly a year ago from VW main dealer and I've just had a renewal invite for the warranty. I'm tempted to renew just the drivetrain warranty for a couple of hundred quid, but wondered whether anyone has successfully claimed for a BXE engine failure (on any warranty).
The warranty in question has the usual t&c's about wear and tear etc and I'm concerned that a claim could be refused on these grounds. If that's a likelihood I'll save my money and take my chances.
Any advice / thoughts much appreciated.
AlpineWhite said:
Skoda Fabia vRS, 1.9 pd 130. Regular servicing, belts and a set of glowplugs. 126k.
Skoda Fabia vRS, 1.9 pd 130 standard. Regular servicing, belts, head gasket + skim, turbo, AC compressor, several failed plastic boost hoses, console bushes, 175k. Not really bombproof for me, but the higher the mileage goes the better value it becomes over the life of the car.Hi Janet,
I just read your post with amazement. My 2008 Passat 1.9tdi BXE 105bhp engine had one out of the blue extravagant death at the weekend. The conrod pushed out through the engine block to say hello. Looking as serious money to get it back on the road. Can you tell me how far you got with your quest below and if we can be of mutual benefit to the cause?
Best regards
Noel
I just read your post with amazement. My 2008 Passat 1.9tdi BXE 105bhp engine had one out of the blue extravagant death at the weekend. The conrod pushed out through the engine block to say hello. Looking as serious money to get it back on the road. Can you tell me how far you got with your quest below and if we can be of mutual benefit to the cause?
Best regards
Noel
Janet Bracks said:
From my research so far it is a group of BXE, 1.9tdi, 105bhp engines fitted to 57 and 08 plate VAG vehicles, possibly straying to 07 plates. It is possible that it continues on to newer cars as it seems that most have gone in the last 6 months. I am furthering research as I can't afford another engine. I am about to send VW he following questionnaire
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Please complete the questions below in relation to Volkswagen Group vehicles:
1 How many vehicles have you been notified of with engine failure due to the con rod?
2 What engines i.e. size/date of manufacture/registration year, have these vehicles been?
3 What was the mileage on the vehicles?
4 What may cause such a failure?
5 Were there any changes in the production of these engines just prior to 2007/8? E.g. change in metal supplier?/transferred to new factory?
6 Were any faults noted with the cleaning or machinery used in the production of these engines during this time?
7 What is Volkswagen’s expectation of the longevity of their engines?
They spend a lot of time saying that they have not encountered any other problems when I know they have.
Don't get me wrong I bought my Touran because I thought it would do at least 200k miles.
Just because it says 1.9 TDI it doesn't make it boombproof. Basing your opinion and choices on stereotypes is not a good idea.
Reliability was earned by the old 1.9 TDIs, the non common rail units of the late 90's, especially 90 bhp one which would just go on and on without problems. injection system would go at some point, as would the turbo but that would be wear and tear, and especially injection system wasn't that costly to replace comparing with common rail.
New 1.9 TDIs, even though based on their successful ancestor, are different engines, as denoted by the PD suffix, incorporating many changes to the old unit, including different fuel injection system.
Reliability was earned by the old 1.9 TDIs, the non common rail units of the late 90's, especially 90 bhp one which would just go on and on without problems. injection system would go at some point, as would the turbo but that would be wear and tear, and especially injection system wasn't that costly to replace comparing with common rail.
New 1.9 TDIs, even though based on their successful ancestor, are different engines, as denoted by the PD suffix, incorporating many changes to the old unit, including different fuel injection system.
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