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GhepardoGTS

26 posts

23 months

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The new Hachiroku didn't appeal to me as stock. But this..... Even better, the bodykit is surprisingly cheap.

Mastodon2

8,904 posts

49 months

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Imagine having one of these, 650bhp, and a little over 970kg in this guise. These things must be immensely quick - they must have been insane compared to the competition in their day, and look at those stats, it's still going to be one of the fastest things on the road today. If the cabin was stripped back to racing spec and any soundproofing taken out, I'm sure you could get to 900kg, and then you're only 50kg off the weight of the racing car. Still, even at a top weight of 970kg, nothing would have been able to touch you then, and few things could even now.





In a way, as much as I awe at the plush interiors the likes of Lamborghini etc have been able to add to theirs cars (not so much Pagani, Spyker etc - overstyled tat) I wish the supercar buyer demographic was not so full of tarts who only want something that looks good while they climb out of it in Casino Square; if more buyers were motorsport enthusiasts who wanted stripped out, truly minimalistic race cars technology, we'd have more cars like this today. I suppose Gumpert were building along these lines, but even they were trying to include a plush luxury model to attract more buyers. The Apollo was raw, with it's noisy racing-spec fuel pump dominating the cabin noise, and it's exposed carbon fibre seats that were built into the tub. It was also ugly, but the game here was more about the pudding and less about the presentation - sadly, it seems despite serious engineering credibility, a car like that is just too much for buyers today, hence Gumpert struggling to sell a great deal of them.

I wish there were supercars that were not afraid to deafen you with cabin drone, the kind of car that you need to wear ear defenders in, and monitors to talk to your passengers, cars that rattled your fillings out, that left you shaken rather than stirred when you had taken it for a cheeky late night run. Sadly, it seems to be an ever diminishing market which as far as I can remember at this hazy hour of the morning, seems to be pretty much uncatered for in late 2012.

Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 13th October 11:26

FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

50 months

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The nearest thing is probably building your own Ultima, or buying one already built.

Baryonyx

9,557 posts

43 months

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Mastodon2 said:
Imagine having one of these, 650bhp, and a little over 970kg in this guise. These things must be immensely quick - they must have been insane compared to the competition in their day, and look at those stats, it's still going to be one of the fastest things on the road today. If the cabin was stripped back to racing spec and any soundproofing taken out, I'm sure you could get to 900kg, and then you're only 50kg off the weight of the racing car. Still, even at a top weight of 970kg, nothing would have been able to touch you then, and few things could even now.



In a way, as much as I awe at the plush interiors the likes of Lamborghini etc have been able to add to theirs cars (not so much Pagani, Spyker etc - overstyled tat) I wish the supercar buyer demographic was not so full of tarts who only want something that looks good while they climb out of it in Casino Square; if more buyers were motorsport enthusiasts who wanted stripped out, truly minimalistic race cars technology, we'd have more cars like this today. I suppose Gumpert were building along these lines, but even they were trying to include a plush luxury model to attract more buyers. The Apollo was raw, with it's noisy racing-spec fuel pump dominating the cabin noise, and it's exposed carbon fibre seats that were built into the tub. It was also ugly, but the game here was more about the pudding and less about the presentation - sadly, it seems despite serious engineering credibility, a car like that is just too much for buyers today, hence Gumpert struggling to sell a great deal of them.

I wish there were supercars that were not afraid to deafen you with cabin drone, the kind of car that you need to wear ear defenders in, and monitors to talk to your passengers, cars that rattled your fillings out, that left you shaken rather than stirred when you had taken it for a cheeky late night run. Sadly, it seems to be an ever diminishing market which as far as I can remember at this hazy hour of the morning, seems to be pretty much uncatered for in late 2012.
For whatever reason, the photo linked in your post hasn't worked.

EDIT: If my lottery win ever comes in I'll buy an Ultima GTR or Ultima Sports. Just call for the keys.





Edited by Baryonyx on Saturday 13th October 05:58

Mastodon2

8,904 posts

49 months

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I do love the Ultima GTR, not sure I'd want to drive one without the wing though!



I think as close as I'll ever get to driving one of those is zinging it around the Nurburgring on Forza 4.
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SystemParanoia

9,696 posts

82 months

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whatever that car on the right is.. looks great biggrin

masermartin

1,120 posts

61 months

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Leins said:
Petrolhead95 said:
I wonder if I could insure this as my first car scratchchin

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Great first car choice IMO. My first two were a Saab 900i and an Audi 80 so I know exactly where you're coming from on this
Yep that could be a good shout, as it's not the kind of thing "youngsters" like to crash into lampposts, so might carry a lower-than-expected insurance bill too...

FWIW I had a 1.6 Peugeot 405 fairly early on in my driving career and that was surprisingly cheap to run. Although you do tend to become default taxi driver of choice for Friday/Saturday/Sunday ...

caraddict

972 posts

28 months

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Anyone owned or driven these?

2004 Subaru Forester XT 2.0



From what I'm reading online, a nice drive because of low center of gravity, fair punch from the turbo engine, lots of upgrades available, decent offroad-performance and cheaper and more practical compared to the WRX.
Nice to obsess something I can afford, I really think I'm getting one (if it's as nice as I think it is) for trashing around in winter and trying some light offroading next summer. Wouldn't feel bad if it got stone chips on gravel.

Fabric

3,373 posts

76 months

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A dab of unobtainium today.



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Petrolhead95

6,282 posts

38 months

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masermartin said:
Yep that could be a good shout, as it's not the kind of thing "youngsters" like to crash into lampposts, so might carry a lower-than-expected insurance bill too...

FWIW I had a 1.6 Peugeot 405 fairly early on in my driving career and that was surprisingly cheap to run. Although you do tend to become default taxi driver of choice for Friday/Saturday/Sunday ...
That's what I was hoping for, although it will probably still be ridiculous amounts of money.

JayTee94

10,974 posts

41 months

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Petrolhead95 said:
masermartin said:
Yep that could be a good shout, as it's not the kind of thing "youngsters" like to crash into lampposts, so might carry a lower-than-expected insurance bill too...

FWIW I had a 1.6 Peugeot 405 fairly early on in my driving career and that was surprisingly cheap to run. Although you do tend to become default taxi driver of choice for Friday/Saturday/Sunday ...
That's what I was hoping for, although it will probably still be ridiculous amounts of money.
Do you like the Vauxhall Astra 1.8 Bertone? If you are looking at the Audi A4, then I doubt the insurance should not be too different and a few people have had decent quotes on them - maybe just something to think about. They look decent aswell in my opinion. smile

Oily Nails

2,834 posts

84 months

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I need help.....





1990 Fiat Panda 4x4....its a Panda with Bullbars!!! hehe

MrFrodo

20,719 posts

126 months

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Today (not especially unusually, I admit) it's this:


Partly because I think the first paragraph of the advert text is genius:
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Petrolhead95

6,282 posts

38 months

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JayTee94 said:
Do you like the Vauxhall Astra 1.8 Bertone? If you are looking at the Audi A4, then I doubt the insurance should not be too different and a few people have had decent quotes on them - maybe just something to think about. They look decent aswell in my opinion. smile
I'm quite fond of those, I'll look into it smile

no effort

193 posts

63 months

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But which one?

If you were looking to buy one with the intention of keeping it for 12-18 months which would you choose?
I've always preferred the 360 but the more I compare them on looks the more I sway towards the 355.

caraddict

972 posts

28 months

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Be aware of the 355's running cost. 12-18 months, 360 is a far safer bet - wouldn't depend on a 355 to run flawlessly for that period of time.

Ex-348 GTS owner and avid Ferrari forum browser.

Edited by caraddict on Sunday 14th October 11:21

no effort

193 posts

63 months

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355's are that bad?

I was thinking that 355's won't get any cheaper so over the term I had the car it would only cost me the servicing costs and a shed load of fuel.

Urban Sports

10,455 posts

87 months

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kamilb1998

2,046 posts

61 months

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A 500 Abarth, and I could afford the finance & insurance by the time I'm 19 too! party


craigb84

1,032 posts

36 months

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Focus RS MK2. For the money I literally can't think of anything that close in terms of age, performance, reliability and the ability to throw an MP350 kit on (which is also manufacturer approved).

I'm just going to do it. F it.
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