RE: New York show: Shelby 1000

[shibby!]

Its insane, i love it!!

[AdamPT]

Motorrad said:

AdamPT said:

remind me what sort of rear suspension that 1k bhp goes through?

As far as I understand a custom eibach fully independent rear suspension.

Also a Boss Mustang gives an M3 a run for it's money with a solid rear axle.

Same old tired crap coming from people who haven't got a clue- google is your friend or try driving one and tell us what you think.

why do fans of Americana get soooooo touchy when you dare to have a differing opinion. For your information, I have driven a Mustang (a standard V8) and it was, in my honest opinion, pretty bl**dy average in all areas. Fun in America on my hols, yes old boy certainly. But at over 100k, not for me. Like I stated originally, each to their own however, and that you love em, and want a car with a 1000bhp that doesn't handle brilliantly (I certainly wouldn't want to drive an M3 with that sort of power either) is entirely your choice, and good for you. No offense intended, so please don't get too irked!

[XitUp]

7 is about a foot and a half longer.

[AdamPT]

XitUp said:

Answer the question please.

Answer what question old boy? Thought I had already.

[XitUp]

AdamPT said:

Answer what question old boy? Thought I had already.

This one:

XitUp said:

Which German car do you mean and what rear suspension does it have?

You didn't.

[XitUp]

Sorry, I meant what rear suspension does the German car you were on about have?

[JohnoVR6]

XitUp said:

Do you think a Mondeo is a little bulky?

Can I stick my neck out and say yes - to the forthcoming Fusion/ Mondeo model at least.

And to an extent even the current one.

[AdamPT]

XitUp said:

AdamPT said:

Answer what question old boy? Thought I had already.

This one:

XitUp said:

Which German car do you mean and what rear suspension does it have?

You didn't.

I did actually.

But I will again, just for you old fruit. Correct me if I am wrong (and I know you will!!) but it has a live rear axle? Feel free to shoot me down in flames....As for German car, I didn't specify as I wasn't refering to a specific car. Question answered for you or not? (I await the anticipated onslaught.....sigh....)

[XitUp]

Compared to most other modern cars?

[AdamPT]

XitUp said:

Sorry, I meant what rear suspension does the German car you were on about have?

I wasn't refering to a specific car. And regardless, if I was, what would that have to do with the topic...which is about a 1000 bhp mustang in case you weren't sure.

[XitUp]

I was sure. You slagged it's rear suspension off for being outdated and said that a German car would have better rear suspension.
Now you say you don't know which German car you are on about nor do you know what sort of rear suspension said imaginary car would have.

Does this sound fair?

[AdamPT]

XitUp said:

I was sure. You slagged it's rear suspension off for being outdated and said that a German car would have better rear suspension.
Now you say you don't know which German car you are on about nor do you know what sort of rear suspension said imaginary car would have.

Does this sound fair?

Hmmmmmmm. Ok I didn't 'slag' anything off. I merely suggested that a live rear axle is a little outdated (which is hardly the most slanderous thing ever uttered, is it?) I also didn't say anything of the sort about a specific German car having 'better' suspension. What I said was that I would prefer something a little more nimble that could perhaps handle corners as well as straights. However, you are welcome to infer whatever you like from what I said. I did also make very clear that everyone is entitled to like whatever they want and that there are many PHers who like these things is a bonus. But not for me.

Now, have a nice cup of tea or something, and relax because you seem mightly het up about something ever so trivial.

[JohnoVR6]

XitUp said:

Compared to most other modern cars?

I'm guessing that one's at me. So yes. Yes I do believe so.

For example:

Mondeo: Length - 4844mm. Width - 2078mm
A4: Length - 4703mm. Width - 2006mm
3-Series - 4624mm. Width - 2031mm

So, whilst the differences in width are mainly negligible, there is a difference there. And, for me, the Kinetic design language amplifies that into a sizeable visual bulk.

Having driven a Mondeo back to back with a 3-Series, it certainly feels the bigger of the two. The new Fusion feels even bigger - Ford's 'Global Car' is sort of like Baseball's World series.

Anyway, I appear to have gone on a complete tangent. So...Mustangs. Very nice

[Motorrad]

AdamPT said:

why do fans of Americana get soooooo touchy when you dare to have a differing opinion.

.......because you were talking bks inferring the car in question had an archaic suspension system, which it doesn't. Not that it makes much difference anyway.

I'm a fan of cars, not 'Americana' exclusively.

[AdamPT]

Motorrad said:

AdamPT said:

why do fans of Americana get soooooo touchy when you dare to have a differing opinion.

.......because you were talking bks inferring the car in question had an archaic suspension system, which it doesn't. Not that it makes much difference anyway.

I'm a fan of cars, not 'Americana' exclusively.

Oh good grief! Would I be wrong in suggesting a live rear axle isn't particularly modern? No offense was intended, that you have taken offense is your choice entirely.

[Motorrad]

AdamPT said:

Oh good grief! Would I be wrong in suggesting a live rear axle isn't particularly modern? No offense was intended, that you have taken offense is your choice entirely.

I haven't taken offence.

I've stated plainly that the car doesn't have a live rear axle numerous times now but you seem incapable of comprehending it.

[AdamPT]

Motorrad said:

AdamPT said:

Oh good grief! Would I be wrong in suggesting a live rear axle isn't particularly modern? No offense was intended, that you have taken offense is your choice entirely.

I haven't taken offence.

I've stated plainly that the car doesn't have a live rear axle numerous times now but you seem incapable of comprehending it.

Hurrah, congratulations, your perserveance has paid off, I now know these particular cars don't have a live rear axle (I guess that is where some of the frankly ridiculous $200k has been spent on). As I have stated all along, each to their own. Enjoy. As I stated, the standard 4.6 I drove was a honking pile...but I guess this must be different...to some people.

Edited by AdamPT on Thursday 5th April 16:12

[Motorrad]

AdamPT said:

Hurrah, congratulations, your perserveance has paid off, I now know these particular cars don't have a live rear axle (I guess that is where some of the frankly ridiculous $200k has been spent on). As I have stated all along, each to their own. Enjoy. As I stated, the standard 4.6 I drove was a honking pile...but I guess this must be different...to some people.

Edited by AdamPT on Thursday 5th April 16:12

I don't care about your ignorance, I just didn't want other people to be misinformed by people who talk bks like you.

[AdamPT]

Motorrad said:

AdamPT said:

Hurrah, congratulations, your perserveance has paid off, I now know these particular cars don't have a live rear axle (I guess that is where some of the frankly ridiculous $200k has been spent on). As I have stated all along, each to their own. Enjoy. As I stated, the standard 4.6 I drove was a honking pile...but I guess this must be different...to some people.

Edited by AdamPT on Thursday 5th April 16:12

I don't care about your ignorance, I just didn't want other people to be misinformed by people who talk bks like you.

wow, but clearly you do care, very much....about something a bit silly. Oh well, cheerio, have a nice Easter!

[willowbeem21]

I love it ,proper muscle car