Pictures of decently Modified cars [Vol. 2]

Pictures of decently Modified cars [Vol. 2]

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e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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Chris Stott said:
Spotted this whilst drooling over most of the stuff on the JZM site...





1,050kg, 405bhp 3.8l engine built by 9M and lots of other very tasty bits.
I'd love that. I'd swap the whale for a duck though.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Master Bean said:
Another incorrectly registered vehicle, automatically puts it outside of decently modified.
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration rolleyes
How has it been registered?

mattwhite709

328 posts

100 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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e21Mark said:
Chris Stott said:
Spotted this whilst drooling over most of the stuff on the JZM site...





1,050kg, 405bhp 3.8l engine built by 9M and lots of other very tasty bits.
I'd love that. I'd swap the whale for a duck though.
Love the big spoiler but I would personally have it in a different colour though, maybe that light blue/orange Singer used.

TheRocket

1,517 posts

250 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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Ticks all the boxes of a Decently modified car, good post.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Master Bean said:
Another incorrectly registered vehicle, automatically puts it outside of decently modified.
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?
No, I'd like people to follow the rules that allow you to legally modify your car and not ps off the powers that be which then FORCES them to ban any modifications.

Plus, have you even been to Germany? Plenty of modified cars there, you know.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Master Bean said:
Another incorrectly registered vehicle, automatically puts it outside of decently modified.
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration rolleyes
How has it been registered?
Quite simply, they've just used the original Golf registration without declaring the mods to the DVLA.

The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.

In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.

Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too... There is thinking of safety, and there is being a busybody.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too... There is thinking of safety, and there is being a busybody.
...and there is driving around in an illegal vehicle.

neilbauer

2,467 posts

184 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too... There is thinking of safety, and there is being a busybody.
A sports exhaust wouldn't change your preium much if at all so why not declare it! Better pay slightly more than risk your insurance behind invalidated in an inspection after a serious crash.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

151 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Just a thought, but maybe if the IVA test wasn't a case of paying £600 to an officious, jumped-up jobsworth with delusions of grandeur, armoured against normal human interaction by his hi-viz jacket and just itching to fail any car that comes his way... partly because the Rules Must Be Obeyed... partly because it's the one moment of power in his cuckolded, empty pointless life... but mostly because he actually hates cars, all cars; that's why he got the job. The only thing he hates more than the cars is the stupid people who modify them just so they can rush about expressing a bit of imagination and joie de vivre... all the things that are missing from his tragic existence. Their expressiveness and sheer happiness with life causes him almost physical pain. Why can't they just Obey and toe the line? What's wrong with buying a nice Toyota hybrid? After all, his Dorothy insisted they ought to have sensible transport and you know how much Mother hates loud engine noises...

...perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like wink

smithyithy

7,264 posts

119 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Well, someone failed an IVA test... laugh

Question on the subject: does 'chassis notching' count as modifications to the monocoque? That and raising turrets, I recall a lot of VAG cars doing these mods to help get their cars lower.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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smithyithy said:
Well, someone failed an IVA test... laugh

Question on the subject: does 'chassis notching' count as modifications to the monocoque? That and raising turrets, I recall a lot of VAG cars doing these mods to help get their cars lower.
They both technically fall into modifications to the monocoque, and therefore require an IVA test.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Nik da Greek said:
Just a thought, but maybe if the IVA test wasn't a case of paying £600 to an officious, jumped-up jobsworth with delusions of grandeur, armoured against normal human interaction by his hi-viz jacket and just itching to fail any car that comes his way... partly because the Rules Must Be Obeyed... partly because it's the one moment of power in his cuckolded, empty pointless life... but mostly because he actually hates cars, all cars; that's why he got the job. The only thing he hates more than the cars is the stupid people who modify them just so they can rush about expressing a bit of imagination and joie de vivre... all the things that are missing from his tragic existence. Their expressiveness and sheer happiness with life causes him almost physical pain. Why can't they just Obey and toe the line? What's wrong with buying a nice Toyota hybrid? After all, his Dorothy insisted they ought to have sensible transport and you know how much Mother hates loud engine noises...

...perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like wink
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test.

It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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By the way, if this can pass an IVA...



...then most other people really have no excuse!

kambites

67,634 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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shakotan said:
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test.

It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
Have you actually tried to read the manual in question? He's huge!

shakotan

10,716 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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kambites said:
shakotan said:
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test.

It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
Have you actually tried to read the manual in question? He's huge!
He is huge, he's also not that difficult to digest if you're taking it into consideration when building a car.

You don't have to read and memorise the entire thing in one go, you just refer to each section when you reach the relevant part of your build.

The IVA should not be treated like an "I'm thinking of a card, can you guess what it is?" situation.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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shakotan said:
DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Master Bean said:
Another incorrectly registered vehicle, automatically puts it outside of decently modified.
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration rolleyes
How has it been registered?
Quite simply, they've just used the original Golf registration without declaring the mods to the DVLA.

The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.

In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.

Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.
Even with a fresh IVA it would still be bloody awful.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too...
Anyone who isn't a colossal tool will, anyway.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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ManOpener said:
stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too...
Anyone who isn't a colossal tool will, anyway.
Have to agree, not declaring all mods nowadays is just not worth the risk. I got stopped in both my E21 and track prepared E30 and the police contacted my insurance to confirm I had declared everything. If I hadn't I would have had my car seized and 6 points on my licence. The police are far more aware regarding car mods and insurance nowadays and insurance companies would be perfectly entitled not to pay out, even if it is just a sports exhaust.

AstonZagato

12,725 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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shakotan said:
DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Master Bean said:
Another incorrectly registered vehicle, automatically puts it outside of decently modified.
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration rolleyes
How has it been registered?
Quite simply, they've just used the original Golf registration without declaring the mods to the DVLA.

The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.

In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.

Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.
Couldn't it be a personalised plate on a Q plate car? Or does it not work that way?