Pictures of decently Modified cars [Vol. 2]
Discussion
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration e21Mark said:
Chris Stott said:
Spotted this whilst drooling over most of the stuff on the JZM site...
1,050kg, 405bhp 3.8l engine built by 9M and lots of other very tasty bits.
I'd love that. I'd swap the whale for a duck though.1,050kg, 405bhp 3.8l engine built by 9M and lots of other very tasty bits.
Caddyshack said:
shakotan said:
Would you like full TUV over here and stop any modifications altogether?Plus, have you even been to Germany? Plenty of modified cars there, you know.
DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.
In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.
Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.
stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too... There is thinking of safety, and there is being a busybody.
A sports exhaust wouldn't change your preium much if at all so why not declare it! Better pay slightly more than risk your insurance behind invalidated in an inspection after a serious crash. Just a thought, but maybe if the IVA test wasn't a case of paying £600 to an officious, jumped-up jobsworth with delusions of grandeur, armoured against normal human interaction by his hi-viz jacket and just itching to fail any car that comes his way... partly because the Rules Must Be Obeyed... partly because it's the one moment of power in his cuckolded, empty pointless life... but mostly because he actually hates cars, all cars; that's why he got the job. The only thing he hates more than the cars is the stupid people who modify them just so they can rush about expressing a bit of imagination and joie de vivre... all the things that are missing from his tragic existence. Their expressiveness and sheer happiness with life causes him almost physical pain. Why can't they just Obey and toe the line? What's wrong with buying a nice Toyota hybrid? After all, his Dorothy insisted they ought to have sensible transport and you know how much Mother hates loud engine noises...
...perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like
...perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like
smithyithy said:
Well, someone failed an IVA test...
Question on the subject: does 'chassis notching' count as modifications to the monocoque? That and raising turrets, I recall a lot of VAG cars doing these mods to help get their cars lower.
They both technically fall into modifications to the monocoque, and therefore require an IVA test.Question on the subject: does 'chassis notching' count as modifications to the monocoque? That and raising turrets, I recall a lot of VAG cars doing these mods to help get their cars lower.
Nik da Greek said:
Just a thought, but maybe if the IVA test wasn't a case of paying £600 to an officious, jumped-up jobsworth with delusions of grandeur, armoured against normal human interaction by his hi-viz jacket and just itching to fail any car that comes his way... partly because the Rules Must Be Obeyed... partly because it's the one moment of power in his cuckolded, empty pointless life... but mostly because he actually hates cars, all cars; that's why he got the job. The only thing he hates more than the cars is the stupid people who modify them just so they can rush about expressing a bit of imagination and joie de vivre... all the things that are missing from his tragic existence. Their expressiveness and sheer happiness with life causes him almost physical pain. Why can't they just Obey and toe the line? What's wrong with buying a nice Toyota hybrid? After all, his Dorothy insisted they ought to have sensible transport and you know how much Mother hates loud engine noises...
...perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test....perhaps if this wasn't the reality of the test, instead of some parallel existence where passing "isn't *that* hard", then more people might bother giving it a go. Just sayin, like
It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
shakotan said:
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test.
It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
Have you actually tried to read the manual in question? He's huge!It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
kambites said:
shakotan said:
I know loads of vehicles that have sucessfully passed an IVA test.
It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
Have you actually tried to read the manual in question? He's huge!It's no more than a (very) extended MOT, and there's a helpful manual which shows the pass/fail criteria. It's not subjective, so if someone has failed you on an item, it means you either haven't read it properly, or have interpreted it incorrectly. Neither of which is the fault of the tester.
You don't have to read and memorise the entire thing in one go, you just refer to each section when you reach the relevant part of your build.
The IVA should not be treated like an "I'm thinking of a card, can you guess what it is?" situation.
shakotan said:
DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.
In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.
Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.
ManOpener said:
stephen300o said:
Yes, and we all declare a sports exhaust to the insurance too...
Anyone who isn't a colossal tool will, anyway.shakotan said:
DoubleD said:
mk2 24v said:
Caddyshack said:
TuV doesnt mean we can't modify though. And it wouldn't stop incorrectly registered vehicles from being on the road. The current system is flouted as it is because the builder of such cars couldnt give a st towards correctly registering and getting a Q plate registration The Radically Altered Vehicle rules work on an 8-point system which means if you alter the monocoque of a vehicle, it loses its right to Registration, and must undergo Type Approval via the Individual Vehicle Approval scheme. Once passed it will be issued with a Q-registration like many home built kits cars are.
In theory this should be picked up at the next MoT after the mods have been done, if the builder has decided not to inform the DVLA, however many folks know a 'friendly' MoT tester who will turn a blind eye. Stupid really as they're risking their own jobs by failing to issue a Refusal to Test and notifying the DVLA.
Thing is, the IVA isn't *that* hard to pass in a relatively modern vehicle, it's just laziness on part of the builder. It makes no sense after spending all the time, money and effort making something that, in fairness, looks very cool, only to flout the Laws for the sake of a £600 test.
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