Pictures of decently Modified cars [Vol. 2]

[McAndy]

Audi RS2 developed with Porsche; overlap of branding allowed.

Also see Proton GTi with Lotus. (One got a better deal than the other there, publicity wise.)

[ManOpener]

smithyithy said:

Didn't the Audi RS2 have Porsche wheels?

I recently discovered thanks to another thread that they're actually copies of Porsche Cup wheels rather than the real things. Different centre bore.

[smithyithy]

Ah, I had to do a Google Image search to be sure but quite a few of the results had the Porsche crest, so they must've been retrofitted by owners.

[Adz The Rat]

McAndy said:

Right, that BMW: I can accept that while it is not to my taste, a great deal of time, effort and money has gone into making it just how the owner wants it, and I could normally respect that. However, I cannot accept this becuase they have put fkING PORSCHE HUB CAPS ON A BMW! WHY?!

If it has a Porsche engine in it then I'll take that back and admire their subtlety.

I would imagine they are Porsche wheels, or aftermarket Porsche wheels which have been adapted to fit. So its "cooler" to leave Porsche centre caps on.

When I had Mercedes wheels on my old Golf, I had AMG centre caps on them.

[Digitalize]

ManOpener said:

I recently discovered thanks to another thread that they're actually copies of Porsche Cup wheels rather than the real things. Different centre bore.

I'd imagine they're a different PCD too, fairly sure the RS2 isn't 5x130.

[kambites]

I'd always assumed the RS2 used complete Porsche hub assemblies? It certainly was 5x130.

[ManOpener]

Digitalize said:

ManOpener said:

I recently discovered thanks to another thread that they're actually copies of Porsche Cup wheels rather than the real things. Different centre bore.

I'd imagine they're a different PCD too, fairly sure the RS2 isn't 5x130.

RS2 does use Porsche hubs, presumably to make mounting the Porsche brakes easier too.
I think the offset might be different but the RS2 is definitely Porsche bolt pattern. RS2 wheels are 7x17" square, ET55, 5x130.

AFAIK the Porsche centre bore is smaller so they'll physically fit a 964, but 964 Cup wheels won't fit an RS2.

Edited by ManOpener on Tuesday 16th August 16:07

[Digitalize]

ManOpener said:

RS2 does use Porsche hubs, presumably to make mounting the Porsche brakes easier too.
I think the offset might be different but the RS2 is definitely Porsche bolt pattern. RS2 wheels are 7x17" square, ET55, 5x130.

AFAIK the Porsche centre bore is smaller so they'll physically fit a 964, but 964 Cup wheels won't fit an RS2.

Edited by ManOpener on Tuesday 16th August 16:07

Hmm, I assumed they would have used different carriers to mount the brakes rather than the entire hub assembly. It's strange they're 5x130 but used a different centre bore though, meaning it's not parts bin as such.

[ManOpener]

Digitalize said:

ManOpener said:

RS2 does use Porsche hubs, presumably to make mounting the Porsche brakes easier too.
I think the offset might be different but the RS2 is definitely Porsche bolt pattern. RS2 wheels are 7x17" square, ET55, 5x130.

AFAIK the Porsche centre bore is smaller so they'll physically fit a 964, but 964 Cup wheels won't fit an RS2.

Edited by ManOpener on Tuesday 16th August 16:07

Hmm, I assumed they would have used different carriers to mount the brakes rather than the entire hub assembly.

They reused the disks too, as well as a separate handbrake mechanism using a drum inside the disk. I'd assume that's why they went that route, but apparent the hubs are slightly different from Porsche fitment ones anyway so beats me.

[ATM]

e21Mark said:

AVV EM said:

Otter Smacker said:

If you want a v8 rx7 just buy a corvette

The thing is, anyone can buy a Corvette. Build a V8 RX7 though? Maybe not so much.

A guy on here called papercup built an awesome one of these. He then sold it to someone who has been half heated trying to sell it on eBay for about 17 grand. It is still for sale. So you could just buy one ready made. I'm seriously tempted. This one is only an atmo ls3 with about 500 bhp.

[k-ink]

I saw that some time ago. I was very tempted but didn't have enough spare after doing my house up. Since then I decided a V8 mx5 would be even better.

[ATM]

k-ink said:

I saw that some time ago. I was very tempted but didn't have enough spare after doing my house up. Since then I decided a V8 mx5 would be even better.

Met the guy who created this one earlier this year. His dad has owned a 7 litre corvette for 39 years. I wish he was my dad.

[k-ink]

Perfect

[e21Mark]

ATM said:

k-ink said:

I saw that some time ago. I was very tempted but didn't have enough spare after doing my house up. Since then I decided a V8 mx5 would be even better.

Met the guy who created this one earlier this year. His dad has owned a 7 litre corvette for 39 years. I wish he was my dad.

Much as I admire the workmanship / skills involved, I just don't think a big torquey V8 is right for cars like the RX7 / MX5. I just think small, high revving screamers are what suits cars like these. Each to their own though, as it would be boring if we all liked the same stuff.

[k-ink]

I already have a high revving screamer. I wouldn't get rid of it! But I would love a V8 as well.

[rohrl]

The V8 MX-5 is just a modern version of an MGBV8 or a Sunbeam Tiger isn't it? There's a place for that in the world.

[ManOpener]

e21Mark said:

I just think small, high revving screamers are what suits cars like these.

Agreed, something like this perhaps



4.0 1UZ-FE on ITBs. Perhaps without the snail attached to the side.

[e21Mark]

ManOpener said:

e21Mark said:

I just think small, high revving screamers are what suits cars like these.

Agreed, something like this perhaps



4.0 1UZ-FE on ITBs. Perhaps without the snail attached to the side.

What sort of rev limit do they have?

I must admit I did like the V8 in the M3 I ran last year, as it was high revving and responsive. It was so different to the e39 M5, which had lots of grunt but just seemed slow revving / lazy by comparison.

(Just to be clear I am not meaning to slate anyone's car or engine choice)

[Vitorio]

e21Mark said:

What sort of rev limit do they have?

A quick google tells me they limit at 6500 with the stuck ECU, but they can take higher, one forum posts mentions people doing 9-10K with them but treating the engines as disposable items for race cars, as they dont last long at those revs. Apparently they can do 7.5-8K pretty well.

[ManOpener]

Vitorio said:

e21Mark said:

What sort of rev limit do they have?

A quick google tells me they limit at 6500 with the stuck ECU, but they can take higher, one forum posts mentions people doing 9-10K with them but treating the engines as disposable items for race cars, as they dont last long at those revs. Apparently they can do 7.5-8K pretty well.

Seen a few companies that produce shimless solid lifters for applications over 8,000RPM. Lighter, early-model rods, shimless solid lifters, hot cams, head work and ITBs is supposed to see a relatively reliable 8,500 when paired with decent bearings and supporting hardware.