RE: Is Lotus in proper bother this time?

RE: Is Lotus in proper bother this time?

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JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Pickled Piper said:
Any truth in the rumour that their Media Relations department is being run by a teenager on work experience with a Facebook account?
hehe Certainly reads like it doesn't it. Rather pathetic.

Dodgey_Rog

1,986 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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JonRB said:
Dodgey_Rog said:
Not seen that directly but i'm guessing it was addressing all the questions being asked in that arena. Interesting points none the less. I noticed this Joe Saward had taken a recent interest in being ultra negative on all subjects Lotus, i wonder if there'll be a slander suit on its way to him....?
What, seriously? They felt the need to rebutt a joke on a satirical website like SniffPetrol in a PR statement? That's insania.
I was referring to FB. I've seen the picture on another website, was that posted on FB too then?

cathalm

606 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Joe Saward is not sniff petrol, he is an F1 blogger who works for Tony Fernandes.

So the CEO and a board member of a rival company post fabrications and lies on the Internet to smear Lotus and you people think this reflects badly on .... lotus?

I despair of uk car enthusiasts if this is any evidence. Fernandes and his crony are showing behaviour vastly more unprofessional here than anything I have ever seen in business, you want to worry about a British car institution? Worry about Caterham. Their behaviour here is a disgrace to that proud company.


JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Dodgey_Rog said:
I was referring to FB. I've seen the picture on another website, was that posted on FB too then?
The picture that they have posted is from the satirical website SniffPetrol ( http://www.sniffpetrol.com), from which Lotus have removed the copyright notice watermark and reproduced without permission, which is a major clanger in its own right.


hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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cathalm said:
So the CEO and a board member of a rival company post fabrications and lies on the Internet to smear Lotus and you people think this reflects badly on .... lotus?
That rebuttal statement reflects badly on Lotus regardless of what anyone's been doing to 'smear' them.

JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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cathalm said:
So the CEO and a board member of a rival company post fabrications and lies on the Internet to smear Lotus and you people think this reflects badly on .... lotus?
Entering into a public slanging match with your detractors drags you down to their level. If slander and/or libel have been committed then sort it out in court rather than airing your dirty laundry in public.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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A measured and concise press release to address any rumours would have the right way to go about it,

Not facebook FFS, what are they 12 years old?
rolleyes

JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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I notice Sniff have a response up already. hehe

http://sniffpetrol.com/2012/04/11/lotusfirstdraft/

HeavySoul

9,214 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Blimey, that is quite embarrassing.

LayZ

1,629 posts

242 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Itsallicanafford said:
..Whow, its statement is on their offical web site as well...http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/home

this is pure and total madness, do they expect people to read this and then configure a £50K exige...
Nail on head. Whoever is running their marketing is really epically bad. Can you imagine Porsche doing this? Mercedes? That's who they want to be up against. Who in their right mind would consider buying a new Lotus now?

norfolkscooby

3,175 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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JonRB said:
I notice Sniff have a response up already. hehe

http://sniffpetrol.com/2012/04/11/lotusfirstdraft/
Fantastic....




Take a little look at what we found online. Don’t you think it’s funny? We do. We had a good old giggle. After all, we love a bit of self belief. Although it’s funny, this one’s not accurate but then again, why let the facts get in the way of a good story? The inconvenient truth is – surprise, surprise – we have never said that there are no lunatics at Lotus.

So whilst lots of people obviously feel the need to comment on Lotus’ current situation in the absence of proper facts or evidence, we can’t ignore these particular mistruths any longer even if we would like to, so we have decided to turn a negative into a positive and use this hilarious piece of ‘arse’ to set the record straight regarding the status quo at Group Lotus and try to return a little stability to a fast changing situation.

False rumour #1: Dany Bahahaha is no longer taking his tablets.
Fact: Rubbish – Dany Bahahaha still is.

False rumour #2: Dato’ Sri Syed is no longer struggling to release himself from the ropes that tie him to the plastic chair in the cupboard.
Fact: Again rubbish. He still is.

You can thank good old Tony Fernandes for these two. He is out to get us. He is. Last night we heard a noise outside and when we went to look there was no one there. We couldn’t see him but we know it was Tony Fernandes. He is like a fat fox. Perhaps he is frustrated because he owns a Formula 1 team instead of doing the smart thing and just giving his name to various racing teams and then realising he hasn’t got the money to pay for all this st.

And whilst we’re on the subject of jokes – do you know the latest F1 joke? My dog’s got a stepped nose. How does it smell? It doesn’t. It’s a Formula 1 car. Can someone explain this to us please?

Speaking of F1: It seems that one special so called ‘independent’ source is at the root of the lion’s share of damaging rumours and misleading stories. The delightful Joe Saward which leads us nicely to….

False rumour #3: Joe Saward has a helicopter that can fly to the sun.
Fact: Helicopters cannot fly to the sun.

And unlike some, we don’t want to get too personal, but Joe Saward is a gaylord and he looks stupid in any kind of hat.

False rumour #4: Group Lotus is no longer involved in F1.
Fact: Lotus F1 Team and Group Lotus have rearranged their living room so we can both watch F1 in comfort. We just need to get some money off Genii so we can buy a Sky subscription. In return, they can have the factory. We don’t want it any more anyway. The reception area smells weird.

False rumour #5: Group Lotus is going into administration.
Fact: Rubbish. Administration is a type of succulent plant found in dry regions of southern Europe. How could a company with no money left afford one of those? We couldn’t. Oh. bks.

The simple fact is, and we haven’t denied this – Lotus is going through a very difficult phase at the moment but we are totally over you, okay. Do you understand, we don’t miss you at all. It’s over. We’ve moved on. In fact, we’ve got a date next week with someone we met recently. It’s none of your business who. Do not try to call us. Also, we want that Dido CD back.

ENDS



JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Vilhelm said:
I agree. I want to like Lotus, but this approach of "OMG!!! Caterham is SUCH a SLUT!!!" is making me despise their existence.
"OMG!!! Caterham is SUCH a SLUT!!! That Tony Fernandes is so out to get us. He, like totally hates us and smells of piss. And he's a skank. And SniffPetrol is such a bh. Well, whatEVER cos we are so, like, better than you and we have 50 billion more models and that and stuff and we're way better."

hehe

Vladimir

6,917 posts

158 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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A recent Evo piece on Bahar made me immediately dislike him. It was like he is the CEO of a very successful mega corp, not a struggling/dead car firm. Appeared to be very big time.

A shame but there you go.

JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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HeavySoul

9,214 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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SnifPetrol said:
...We couldn’t see him but we know it was Tony Fernandes. He is like a fat fox...
rofl

ajprice

27,480 posts

196 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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This is up there with Britney's haircut for batst crazy. Lotus have lost it! rofl

norfolkscooby

3,175 posts

155 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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ajprice said:
This is up there with Britney's haircut for batst crazy. Lotus have lost it! rofl
What we need to do is get the designers on the same disco biscuits as Bahar & the PR team, can you imagine what would be designed?

ajprice

27,480 posts

196 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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norfolkscooby said:
ajprice said:
This is up there with Britney's haircut for batst crazy. Lotus have lost it! rofl
What we need to do is get the designers on the same disco biscuits as Bahar & the PR team, can you imagine what would be designed?

JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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norfolkscooby said:
What we need to do is get the designers on the same disco biscuits as Bahar & the PR team, can you imagine what would be designed?


JonRB

74,551 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th April 2012
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Dammit!! rofl

Edit: Same link too!