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crispian22
531 posts
61 months
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Steffan
6,187 posts
97 months
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crispian22 said: It might make the thieves look elsewhere. But if they want your car this will add 15 seconds of time to their theft. Various consumer programs have demonstrated how ineffective these are against determined thieves. But certainly better than nothing.
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rallycross
4,660 posts
106 months
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toxicnerve
5,264 posts
46 months
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This is worrying. I'm not too far from where the OP is and where the last chap in East London who had his 5er nicked. What the f  k are we supposed to do though?
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driver67
374 posts
34 months
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Same thing being reported over at babybmw.net.
Suggested remedies include moving / putting a false obdii port in place.
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BorkFactor
4,873 posts
27 months
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I genuinely can't believe BMW have not done anything about this yet, it is the sort of thing that could put large numbers of people off the brand for life!
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Fastra
3,694 posts
78 months
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Has it been serviced recently?
Had anything done to it that required someone else having the keys?
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pilchardthecat
5,921 posts
48 months
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driver67 said: Same thing being reported over at babybmw.net.
Suggested remedies include moving / putting a false obdii port in place. A false OBDII port connected to a high-voltage jump starter concealed in the boot? Or confugured to close a circuit when the cable is pushed into it, thus activating a tazer/can of mace/sharp spike secreted somewhere? Come on, this is PH
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frosted
3,549 posts
46 months
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BorkFactor said: I genuinely can't believe BMW have not done anything about this yet, it is the sort of thing that could put large numbers of people off the brand for life! More likely make them uninsurable
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frosted
3,549 posts
46 months
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haggy
1,849 posts
83 months
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Had a random phone call from a guy near me in southampton a couple of weeks ago. His 330D was taken, no keys. 5 BMW's were taken the same way between the monday and thursday!! getting a joke now
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Ved
1,465 posts
44 months
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Shocking and yet every day stuff. I really hope you don't get it back and can move on. I'd never want a car back if it was stollen but I do hope you stick with the nice cars as you've earned the right.
My boss had his keys taken at knife-point not so long ago so it could be so much worse.
How are they doing this then, is it frequency intercpeption or just jamming the actually remote lock?
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toxicnerve
5,264 posts
46 months
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I agree with Ved. If my motor gets nicked I never want to see it again. As for how they're doing it...couple of theories, one is signal blocking so the cars are effectively left unlocked. Other than that, who knows how they're getting in. Maybe they have cracked/acquired the encryption keys that generate the rolling codes? Once they;re in though it seems it's remarkably simple/quick to program a blank key to the car/ECU being stolen. In short...someone has f ked up and customers are paying the price.
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Steffan
6,187 posts
97 months
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toxicnerve said: I agree with Ved. If my motor gets nicked I never want to see it again. As for how they're doing it...couple of theories, one is signal blocking so the cars are effectively left unlocked. Other than that, who knows how they're getting in. Maybe they have cracked/acquired the encryption keys that generate the rolling codes? Once they;re in though it seems it's remarkably simple/quick to program a blank key to the car/ECU being stolen. In short...someone has f ked up and customers are paying the price. If you look in the sister post to this on PH there is a pretty detailed explanation including sufficient information to convince me this is the technology biting BMW on the bum. And the customers. BMW have simply failed to secure the IT element in the management systems on these cars. The thieves have been observed operating laptops near the cars shortly before theft occurs. A footballers X5 has gone missing. Somebody has cracked the Key codes and can reprogram blank keys at will. Full details on the other post. I hope the car thieves rot in hell. Regrettably unlikely.
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JT1982
Original Poster
8 posts
13 months
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I have contacted Watchdog with the details of my car theft - I hope that other victims of the same crime do likewise. Unfortunately, for us its a little too late (limited chance of getting her back) but if the number of calls increases, then something will come of this and bad press will defo hit BMW.
We bought our car in good faith from BMW, only for it to be taken using a simple method which exploits the cars OWN computer system to re-program a blank key and bypass all the security features.
There is a need for the general public (not just those on forums like us) to be aware of this so they can protect their cars...as BMW will not!
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jonjay
59 posts
86 months
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Good on you for contacting watchdog!
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XJSJohn
13,351 posts
88 months
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Zed Ed
668 posts
52 months
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jonjay said: Good on you for contacting watchdog! Looking like a good story, on arrogant premium car manufacturer! BMWs equivalent of Hoover's Free Flights fiasco
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swisstoni
379 posts
148 months
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I would be buying a wheel clamp if I owned a BMW in East London at the moment. Theives probably don't want to be clanking around in the middle of the night if there is an easier one up the road.
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Gaygle
306 posts
77 months
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I think BMW have known about this problem for a while, which is why they haven't bothered trying to make a HPFP that lasts more than 5 minutes. Think about it, if the thief only gets 0.5 mile up the road because the HPFP packs up, the chance of getting the car back is much higher. It's basically them using one design flaw to fix another design flaw. German efficiency at it's best!  Seriously though, sorry to hear about the loss of your 335i. Your 335i sounds almost exactly the same as mine so i appreciate how bad it must feel to lose it!
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