Yeah, the battery swapping thing is a stupid idea. I never championed it.

In that case, don't run out of charge. Or, get towed to a fast charge point. I'm sure if it becomes a big problem the AA/RAC/etc will start getting a few trucks with fast chargers on them.

Yes, 35 miles if you don't have anywhere to charge it when you get there. You'd be an idiot though if you drove 70 miles without thinking about where to charge. If you're an idiot, this is a problem, if you're not, it's not.

Yes, I am.

As there are very few EVs on our roads right now there probably will be. When this changes, they will add more. (And probably start charging you to use them too)

MMmmm

Small car in not suited to being a taxi shocker

Must be because it is electric

Wow you really are an idiot aren't you? I've been catching up on this thread and most of it is you casting aside every valid argument like a school bully but I digress.

I used to sell LDV's in a past life, from time of delivery to irate phone call I had a customers engine go pop in under 45 minutes...

I now work for Renault and sell electric vehicles to companies, and guess what? People are buying them! Shocking news to you I know, I've not sold 100's (yet), but I've a lot of people taking week long demos and placing orders. In fact I can't get a Fluence out of Renault for at least 2 months as their ones are all booked up.

Electric vehicles aren't for everyone, Renault, Nissan, GM and every other manufacturer know this. However, people scoffed when the first cars were launched, there were no petrol stations, a horse is faster etc. It's not going to take all of the petrol and diesel car sales away, but it's becoming more of a viable alternative. If it's not for you, fine don't buy one it really is that easy

Oh and if your battery does 'go pop' with a Renault, they'll replace it. No matter how old the car is. So if it dies in 8 years you get a new battery. Which may well have a better range than your old one. That's how serious they are about them

So before electric cars can sell manufacturers need to build a entire network of battery change stations

So in my world where people accept the cars has a limited range a nissan leaf costs about 30grand with nissan making a small profit

In your world where nissan have built a huge network of battery swap stations a nissan leaf will cost about 30 million pounds with nissan making a small profit

I think they will be more popular in my world

Just a hunch

' Wrong (again), look at the numbers, the internal combustion ends up more
efficient.

There is still no solution for nuclear waste, it continues to build up each year and requires constant supervision to store safely.

Using a double dose of ignorance maybe isn't the best way to support you EVphillia.

The best you can say about an EV is that despite the inefficiency, huge energy cost to make and limited use some people still think they are a viable alternative in some situations.

Hardly a recipe for commercial success..

Go on then, show us your figures.

There is, stick it in big bunkers. Not a lot gets made every year. Far less than the crap that gets pumped out of other power stations and cars/trucks/buses.

Firstly

In globworld 3 people in the UK have a garage so this isn't really a problem.

In petrol head world the fun car would be kept in the garage while the boring car is left outside in the rain


Secondly

Its not exactly unheard of for the electrical bits in a fossil fuelled car to catch fire


Thirdly

You aren't forced to buy one so why worry

Pass

Its not actually an electric car

Its a serial hybrid or in other words an electric car with a built in generator so you get about 30 miles on the batteries and as far as you want if you keep refilling the petrol tank

Also know as the chevy volt

Did you see in the news that woman who set herself on fire with petrol in her own kitchen? Have you seen those pictures of Ferraris on fire?
I have no data on the risk of fire of EVs compared to fossil fuel vehicles, but neither is risk free. Although I already have high voltage electricity in my house, and I've hardly died at all, despite using electricity to light my gas stove and recharge battery packs in my lap-top on my lap.

Also, and I hate to ask for a third time, which is the standard torch battery? You said several pages ago that there is one and based quite a bit of EV battery ranting on it (including calling the engineers of current EVs retards), so I was wondering exactly which of the following commercially available batteries is the standard one: AAA, AA, C, D, that funny square 9 volt one or those little watch type batteries. Which one of those is the standard torch battery? Also do you realise that even for a "standard" AA battery there isn't a standard voltage, or even a standard cell chemistry?