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Soovy
31,989 posts
140 months
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Chris Harris said: Soovy said: It's even got fag burns on the seats. Perfect. I am driving to Germany next Thursday. Only now via Paris.  Gauloise burns.
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bigaoi
27 posts
26 months
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What's the AX GT like compared to the 205 XS ?
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rswift
661 posts
44 months
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Chris Harris said: CampDavid said: If that's real, you've just cost me money. Got a mate driving to Nice next week or so, taking a recently imported Healey on a trailer, behind his Range Rover, .... probably coming back empty, .... just saying. PS Mehari, everyone should have one, but a week would do it.
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Joe911
2,468 posts
104 months
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Chris Harris said: I am driving to Germany next Thursday. Only now via Paris. VLN#3 ?
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caraddict
748 posts
13 months
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Love how a 20+ year old French warm hatch is getting so much attention.
I adore E28s ever since I bought one, and I completely get why you have an M5 E28!
One just feels cool driving one!
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B'stard Child
5,766 posts
115 months
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caraddict said: Love how a 20+ year old French warm hatch is getting so much attention. Unreal isn't it - but it's still a heck of a car for a little one
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chiefski26
508 posts
70 months
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"Maybe just re-attach myself to the drip once more and get a C63 Black Series? What a car that is"
Is it still possible to order one? i hear they are all sold ?
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Cheib
6,222 posts
44 months
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bigaoi
27 posts
26 months
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The UK "Rallye" was just a special edition that had little to do with the "real thing". In fact that UK one says 1360cc/75bhp which is 10 bhp less than an XS. The real thing had an ~1300cc engine and ~100bhp from memory, built for rallying in a specific class. I think they were all white on steel wheels. Not sold in the UK. A different car really.
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goodhand
50 posts
82 months
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As above. The UK Rallye shares nothing with the Euro version, other than the seats and natty little grills in place of the front spot lights. It is in fact a tarted up XR, complete with the heavier 75bhp iron block engine. 
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petrolsniffer
1,639 posts
43 months
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bigaoi said: The UK "Rallye" was just a special edition that had little to do with the "real thing". In fact that UK one says 1360cc/75bhp which is 10 bhp less than an XS. The real thing had an ~1300cc engine and ~100bhp from memory, built for rallying in a specific class. I think they were all white on steel wheels. Not sold in the UK. A different car really. Totally correct iirc they couldn't use the twin webers on uk cars due to the brake servos location? And probally emissions so we got a much more watered down version to shift abit more 
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Cheib
6,222 posts
44 months
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petrolsniffer said: bigaoi said: The UK "Rallye" was just a special edition that had little to do with the "real thing". In fact that UK one says 1360cc/75bhp which is 10 bhp less than an XS. The real thing had an ~1300cc engine and ~100bhp from memory, built for rallying in a specific class. I think they were all white on steel wheels. Not sold in the UK. A different car really. Totally correct iirc they couldn't use the twin webers on uk cars due to the brake servos location? And probally emissions so we got a much more watered down version to shift abit more The curse of RHD!
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goodhand
50 posts
82 months
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petrolsniffer said: Totally correct iirc they couldn't use the twin webers on uk cars due to the brake servos location? And probally emissions so we got a much more watered down version to shift abit more TBH, I think it was more of a cynical cashing in on the name in the UK and shifting the last batch of carbed XRs. And also, the GTI was such a success over here, Peugeot didn't really need/want to introduce another performance version. A slight alteration to the inlet manifold design would've enabled the fitting of twin webbers 
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StevieB
624 posts
17 months
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blakeyc said: [
The bodies were for the time surprisingly strong which gave a good framework on which to attach the chassis. Unfortunately the same couldn't be said for the AX which had more plastic components.
: This is a good comment. People always whinge on about how fragile 205s are, but some friends of mine had an accident in one when a Granada came around the bend on the wrong side. They walked away from that scary encounter with a large saloon car and bought another! Obviously new cars are much safer, but the 205s aint that bad honest!!
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Chris Harris
340 posts
22 months
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On AX v XS:
Citroen is a little lighter and therefore a little quicker. But otherwise I prefer the Pug. They're both brilliant little cars, but the Peugeot's steering is free-er and I just love the way it grips and rolls. Nicer cabin, seat, driving position help too. AX runs it very close, but on bumpy B-roads (where they both shine) the XS is more fluent.
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Chris9999
30 posts
50 months
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When I was at University the XS was the car, if you were lucky enough. I couldn't find a good one and so bought an AX GT, it was also 'sportier' than the XS. However, the build quality wasn't up to much...
- I noticed that the car was steering rather oddly one day, got it over a pit to discover that the plate that the suspension attached to had literally ripped, and so the wheel was only just attached.
- Driving down the A1 from Newcastle to Lincoln on a Friday night to get to a 21st badly party after work, mid winter, 90 odd in the outside lane, very busy. Sudden bang and flash - everything shut down, no engine, no lights....Managed to thread a way through to the verge without death. Turns out that the alternator had sent a power spike through the car, not a single fuse blew but everything else did including every single bulb
- while revving sudden loss of power, turns out the end of the camshaft had snapped
The end when it came was somehow fitting. Spent weekend at girlfriends in London, car left in back yard of terrace house in Newcastle. Returned late Sunday to be met by a pile of bricks in front of the front door and note to see next door. Turns out the neighbours chimney blew over in a storm, the majority of it then slid down the roof at the rear, landed on my AX and destroyed it..I lost 4 years no claims because I could not prove the neighbours were negligent in the upkeep of thei chimney
Replaced it with a 1.9 GTI, a limo compared to the AX but never offered the same near death thrill.
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PK1970
25 posts
70 months
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Great collection Chris.....
I had an AXGT back in the day and loved it..... I skipped the temptation to have a 205XS and in 1994 went to a 106 Rallye 1.3 another fab car (my first ever brand new Aug 1st motor) and a leap forward in French build quality (think thicker crisp packet...)
My wife thinks I'm crazy having 4 cars today, I'll point her at this forum. My "fleet" only goes back to 2007, but the "oldie" is another fabulous M car..... Z4 M Coupe. Not the best ever M to drive, but the looks, that engine and the limited numbers tell me it could be one to keep for many years.
There are just a few cars I regret selling over the years.... but space and £'s meant the Z3 M Coupes (x2), MkI Elise and MkII Exige all had to go.......
Cars are great!!!
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Number 5
2,027 posts
64 months
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I love how the 205 XS is getting most of the attention, reinstalls my faith in PH
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Cheib
6,222 posts
44 months
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Just noticed the 205 XS has got an L plate on it!
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carmadgaz
2,330 posts
52 months
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Number 5 said: I love how the 205 XS is getting most of the attention, reinstalls my faith in PH A good car that lots of people have had experience of. A sign of a proper petrolhead isn't just the appreciation of the Ferraris etc of the world but the appreciation of even the lowliest cars with a bit of character. Like a trip to Prescott the other year, millions of pounds of exotic kit yet this original little Citroen with heaps of patina was what everyone was admiring  And kudos Mr H that is a great and varied garage 
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