RE: PH Fleet: BMW M5 (E28)

[abarber]

Very nice, I love them. I'm in greece at the moment and there are loads of rust free E28s around. Hmmm.

Would have one, but don't need the space and it's still a big barge, similar in size to the new 3 series.

In many ways, the E39 M5 is at least as special. Eventually, they will both appreciate in value. Buy them for peanuts whilst you still can.

[S. Gonzales Esq.]

Nice car - only E28 I've ever driven was a 525e, which wasn't the most exciting proposition.

This thread on BMW specialists near Bristol may be relevant to ur interests.

[Dr Mike Oxgreen]

NGK210 said:

So, can ECUs perish, wear-out or become less efficient after time?

Not perish or wear out, as such, but the legs of any chip will corrode a bit eventually, and the resulting minute quantities of gunge(*) can sometimes bridge between two legs and intermittently short them together, especially when damp. Either that or a solder joint can crack with age.

(*) to give it its technical name

[Great Pretender]

PPPPPP said:

Also highly recommended by a friend who has a few proper M's:

"The best man for the job of fettling the M5 is Darren Farrell 01787 223644 or 07807 689538 he is a one man band but a proper engineer one time Aston Martin development engineer and is a wizard!"

Rule number 1: don't belive everything you read on the internet.

[Output Flange]

Great Pretender said:

And without wishing to turn this thread into a handbag sligner, I'd avoid ML like plague of plagues with the plague.

They were the origin of the "you need to change the chain every 100k miles", IIRC.

Which, at £3k per pop, is nice work if you can get it.

[TomMc1990]

Fabulous looking machine...


WANT!

[Output Flange]

derin100 said:

Ouch! But I can easily believe it! The restoration of the last E28 that I did often brought me close to tears and it wasn't even an M5.

Really look forward to seeing your current project develop! Keep us updated.

Possibly as a warning to others but also for the pleasure of seeing the sheer art my friend Tony's work in progress you might like to take a look at this thread. It's an E28 M5 that ostensibly didn't look 'that bad'....well, not as bad as it turned out to be. It's long but it's worth viewing (and somewhere in there are 3 links to the last E28 that I did...before, during and after):

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=re...

For anyone yet to see the fruits of Derin's labours, allow me to point you ::here::

I mean, just look at it:

[belleair302]

CPC Phil Crouch still does great work on the e28's. He has looked after my E34 for five years and older M cars are only expensive to run if firstly you don't drive them hard, often, and you don't keep on top of the rust etc. Hand built, light, properly quick and just an all round great drive. Oh and Phil will be buying a new Sunseeker once I have paid him for the recent work on my E34 M5!!

[cuda]

Chris,

Take it to Barney Halse at Classic Heroes - he's ex Munich Legends butt way more value. Look at his website. He llooks after my CSL so i speak from experience.

PM me if you'd like to know more.

Tim

[timothymcn]

Contigo said:

Cannot get excited about this car at all. I know it was the first of the M5's, hand-built and used the Modified M1 engine but it's just so dated. All the people complaining about the soul less M5's really need to drive one and appreciate how far Technology has come. I'll keep my E61 thanks.

I don't know why you can't love them both. I know I'd much rather have this than an F10, but an E61 is a different story. They're the best Bangle design, and I think they're going to age extremely well - they already look better and better every day. And then in wagon form, too? Well that makes it a very hard decision.

[Lowtimer]

timothymcn said:

I don't know why you can't love them both. I know I'd much rather have this than an F10, but an E61 is a different story. They're the best Bangle design, and I think they're going to age extremely well - they already look better and better every day. And then in wagon form, too? Well that makes it a very hard decision.

If we had access to the Bangle M5 with the US spec manual transmission I would want one in Touring form. In fact I would probably have bought a new one if that had been the case.

[Output Flange]

Great Pretender said:

PPPPPP said:

Also highly recommended by a friend who has a few proper M's:

"The best man for the job of fettling the M5 is Darren Farrell 01787 223644 or 07807 689538 he is a one man band but a proper engineer one time Aston Martin development engineer and is a wizard!"

Rule number 1: don't belive everything you read on the internet.

Where have I heard that before

Florence Nightingale in 1863 said:

Don't belive everything you read on the internet.

[E38Ross]

lovely car.

another vote for forza west to take care of it. stuart is a top chap and really knows his stuff.

[CarbonM5]

Roll the fuses over to clean the contacts,it may well start then.

[Output Flange]

Lowtimer said:

If we had access to the Bangle M5 with the US spec manual transmission I would want one in Touring form. In fact I would probably have bought a new one if that had been the case.

In theory it sounds great, but the people who have driven the US version with the manual box haven't been blown away by it.

[richard300]

Big Six said:

Disconnect the ABS ECU above the main ECU in the glove box before trying to jump it.

Not shore where you are based but to be on the safe side I would send it to Munich legends http://www.munichlegends.co.uk/ or http://www.classicheroes.co.uk/default

You might try removing & then reinstalling all the fuses & replays in the engine bay. Just sounds like you have a bad contact.

I personally would avoid both of the above mentioned establishments....

Although the current owners of ML I guess deserve a chance, the previous ones are all at Classic Heroes....

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name=Forums&amp...

[redgriff500]

You're a car enthusiast, we all have plenty of experience so lets fix it.

So:

Does it turn over ?

Is there a spark ?

Is there fuel ?

[neil_bolton]

Six Fiend said:

Lovely lovely lovely

Anyhoo,

PHers in Bristol seem to hail http://www.forzawest.com/ as one of the best palces to go.

Chris,

Stu is the top man. He looked after my M5, and I trust him and his team implicitly. I'd go there; if only to walk around and drool over whatever is in at the moment!

In fact, I'll stake my reputation on you being happy with his service.

[jamespink]

LHD said:

The E28 M5.

Awesome MacAwesome from Awesomeshire.

If i can suggest Phil Crouch at CPC Engineering for all bork related issues as the man is a magician.

No question, Phil at CPC is your man. Took my E39 there after BMW Oxford said "just under 3k for one Vanos". Phil fixed it is 20 minutes with a soldering iron and a resistor!

[E38Ross]

neil_bolton said:

Six Fiend said:

Lovely lovely lovely

Anyhoo,

PHers in Bristol seem to hail http://www.forzawest.com/ as one of the best palces to go.

Chris,

Stu is the top man. He looked after my M5, and I trust him and his team implicitly. I'd go there; if only to walk around and drool over whatever is in at the moment!

In fact, I'll stake my reputation on you being happy with his service.

as above, got to agree with this. only been there twice but on both occasions the customer care has been spot on. quick turn around on the work and at very respectable prices too. seriously knows his stuff.