£80k for a 2litre - has the world gone mad??
Discussion
Globs said:
kambites said:
Why does engine capacity make any difference to anything?
Because traditionally more engine = more money.Think Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche etc...
ETA: 80k for an ugly, impractical three-door hatchback on stilts may be ridiculous, but that's nothing to do with its engine size.
Edited by kambites on Monday 23 April 16:23
kambites said:
Globs said:
kambites said:
Why does engine capacity make any difference to anything?
Because traditionally more engine = more money.Think Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche etc...
ETA: 80k for an ugly, impractical three-door hatchback on stilts may be ridiculous, but that's nothing to do with its engine size.
Edited by kambites on Monday 23 April 16:23
Unfortunately so much of modern life is about boasting big figures and Pistonheads is not immune from this. To a lot of folk value means xxxxcapacity, xxxxbhp, xxxxmph whether or not it is any good is often irrelevant.
spoodler said:
To a lot of folk value means xxxxcapacity, xxxxbhp, xxxxmph whether or not it is any good is often irrelevant.
When you pay £80k it's reasonable to be able to see where the money went.In this case it looks like £2k went into the wheels and £78k into the Beckam's bank account.
TBH if I wanted to subsidise overpaid, undereducated footballers I'd just buy a Sky Sports subscription.
And a decent car I could look at without grabbing at the nearest bucket.
Globs said:
fourwheelsteer said:
Negative Creep said:
Is it me, or has the concept of understated class been completely abandoned these days? Still, I'm sure it will look great outside your Party Planning Agency, or whatever vacuous non job Daddy got you
You're right, no-one seems to want understated elegance anymore. It is more a case of "If you've got it, flaunt it".What I can't understand is the mindset of the person who thinks the Beckam's are cool or have anything to teach us about style!!!
Remember that phrase "money shouts, class whispers"? Whilst we all have our own idea of what's classy, if I had £80k to spend my first thought would be along the lines of a classic Maserati or Bristol - something that in my mind would be appreciated and not run the risk of being keyed every time you parked it.
Baryonyx said:
Given that the Evoque is a car that has completely lacked credibility from the start I am surprised this news has made such a splash here.
I know what you mean. They came out with the concept and it got rave reviews. Then not so long after, the production version arrives and looks much the same. Now it's performing extemely well in every test against its rivals and LR are struggling to keep up with the demand for it...
Fabric said:
kambites said:
Why does engine capacity make any difference to anything?
Not a huge amount per se, but I'd imagine if you took down the average performance of cars within a similar price bracket, you'd find this to be substantially lacking in the majority of departments.aryastark said:
Everyone goes on about the bmw x6 as being pointless, but why the double standards with a 4x4 that has 2 doors!????
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My theory is that its probably down to the fact LR are built in the uk so people decide to ignore major details that would bring the trolls of ph out had any of the superior engineered german brands made anything similar.
Anyway, congrats to tata and india for sorting both LR and jaguar and turning them into competitive brands.
Still and ugly sh*t car though.
May I ask what's wrong with a 2 door 4*4?'
My theory is that its probably down to the fact LR are built in the uk so people decide to ignore major details that would bring the trolls of ph out had any of the superior engineered german brands made anything similar.
Anyway, congrats to tata and india for sorting both LR and jaguar and turning them into competitive brands.
Still and ugly sh*t car though.
Edited by aryastark on Sunday 22 April 17:17
that being said I'm not convinced about this - the "Beckham brand" thing baffles me totally, I'm sure he's a nice enough person (and at a push I'd say the same for her) but this whole thing about them selling an "aspirational lifestyle" purleeeze!
wst said:
“I like that it feel luxurious but also has quite a classic edge to it as well as a contemporary feel.”
What does this even mean?
It's a series of marketobks given by the PR company to Victoria Beckham to say to the press.What does this even mean?
Anyone who says people like her (and Katie Price and all the others) are successful, independent businesswomen to be applauded are deluded. They're mere figureheads, products for PRs, designers and ghost-writers to hide behind and use as a 'brand' in order to sell more. I very much doubt she did anything other than leaf through a catalogue going 'I like that, I like that, I don't like that'.
irocfan said:
May I ask what's wrong with a 2 door 4*4?
that being said I'm not convinced about this - the "Beckham brand" thing baffles me totally, I'm sure he's a nice enough person (and at a push I'd say the same for her) but this whole thing about them selling an "aspirational lifestyle" purleeeze!
I'd forgotten how damn good the original looked!! The Evoque really is a steaming pile of eyesore.that being said I'm not convinced about this - the "Beckham brand" thing baffles me totally, I'm sure he's a nice enough person (and at a push I'd say the same for her) but this whole thing about them selling an "aspirational lifestyle" purleeeze!
Negative Creep said:
Is it me, or has the concept of understated class been completely abandoned these days? Still, I'm sure it will look great outside your Party Planning Agency, or whatever vacuous non job Daddy got you
Not yet. It's the exact reason cars like original RR Classics are reaching £80k. Seeing more and more of them in London along with Defenders. A chap in Mayfair has a matt black vinyled Talbot Samba as a piss take of all the pie people in the area.
Globs said:
XitUp said:
Globs said:
Beckham will be well in with the Global Warming con artists and scammers crowd.
Who?Globs said:
Colonial said:
Globs said:
Even if it's hideous and crass. It's a natural progression of NuLabours Chav breeding program - there are a hell of a lot of them about now and they are starting to drive and collect their own benefits.
What I can't understand is the mindset of the person who thinks the Beckam's are cool or have anything to teach us about style!!!
It's no different to Yank car design in the late 50s. Just a different form of it. What I can't understand is the mindset of the person who thinks the Beckam's are cool or have anything to teach us about style!!!
Big fins, lots of chrome etc.
Nothing to do with Labour, despite them being the whipping boy for those of the Daily Mail is a Socialist rag bent on here.
Or do you have some very rich chavs round your ends?
XitUp said:
Globs said:
XitUp said:
Globs said:
Beckham will be well in with the Global Warming con artists and scammers crowd.
Who?Not my cup of tea but if it helps maintain JLRs position as a bit of a success story in a very difficult market then they can fill their boots!
Landrover did the best thing by moving into the lifestyle market back in the early 1990's but unfortunately some enthusiasts of the brand are still lamenting the move from leafs to coils
The world went mad years ago and the car market in the west is pretty stagnant, let them milk the cash rich east if it allows the profit to be used to develop cool stuff for our markets.
Landrover did the best thing by moving into the lifestyle market back in the early 1990's but unfortunately some enthusiasts of the brand are still lamenting the move from leafs to coils
The world went mad years ago and the car market in the west is pretty stagnant, let them milk the cash rich east if it allows the profit to be used to develop cool stuff for our markets.
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