RE: Abandoned Enzo part of Dubai supercar sale

[cjb1]

I did a night 'in the slammer' in Dubai for attempting to re-enter (behave!) on an expired visa, I was lucky I spent a night in the guards office away from the common 'crim's'. Theirquarters did not look pleasant, I'm sure I'd have been walking funny the next day if I'd been banged up with them!!!

Rude-boy said:

Agreed, althoguh I'll wager his ringpiece thought it a good move

[splitpin]

craigb84 said:

splitpin said:

In order, Yep, slap in the middle, little village with stuff like a cathedral & castle called Norwich (added to which saving grace Snett is but a few miles down the A11, so that'll do nicely), No & No (and not displeased with that).

There is indeed and IMHO Dubai is one of them; beyond the gloss, there is bugger-all there; done the Red Dune, been there, done that, got the tee-shirt.

So said, each to his own.

True to a degree but if you're willing to get involved there are things to do. Uk has a touch more to offer in the way of mountains / countryside if you're all out-doorsy but there's more to living there than Friday brunches at the weekend.

Summer is extremely boring with the heat but I have to admit that after a long week at work the thing I miss most is going up to the pool (which was often empty) for the weekend. I don't want to be working a 50 hr week and have a packed weekend but a little excursion out to the desert / mountains once a month or so was enough to keep me occupied.

Couple that with all the golf tournaments, the sevens, formula 1 (and all the other Motorsport), power boating etc. What else do you need?

Point taken and for the young single bloke, there's certainly far worse places to be; but it's a pretty lousy place for SWMBO unless she's happy to be living back in the Dark Ages don't you think? Got to admit that I actually do like having Seasons as well, rather than varying Regulo Settings.

[cjb1]

I lived out there for nearly 2 years so witnessed all this first hand, on top of the lack of cosmetic care or servicing the rag-heads drive them like f~~~~~ng lunatics, street racing between top end exotica is commom day or night even the newer and nicest looking cars are likely to have been pranged and repaired at some time. If you live over there it's easy to find out if they are damaged repaired, no cars can be repaired without being reported to the police, no matter how minor the damage as no repair shop will touch it without a 'damage reported to the police' official notification, if they do fix it without they will be off to jail. If you buy at an on-line auction you will never know the cars tru history.

Otispunkmeyer said:

Thats just what happens out there. I think it only takes a handful of days to have your car coated in so much dust and sand it looks like some kind of epic barn find.

Fine sand and dust also gets in anywhere... even if its air tight, it'll fill up with sand I bet! Would hate to know that basically you could be sanding the inside of your engine down every time you drive! I bet an air filter doesnt stop it all.

[Soovy]

cjb1 said:

being in debt in the UAE is not illegal, failing to honour them is......

Tyrewrecker said:

You are not allowed to be in debt, it is very serious.

Indeed. It's a pity that it's not the same here.

[cjb1]

apparently sh@gging on the beach is also frowned on!!

Soovy said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...

Indeed. It's a pity that it's not the same here.

[tommy vercetti]

Sad to see a car like this being left like that in that condition. Hopefully new owner will take proper care of it, and drive it! Good luck with getting rid of the dust though.

[Rude-boy]

splitpin said:

In order, Yep, slap in the middle, little village with stuff like a cathedral & castle called Norwich (added to which saving grace Snett is but a few miles down the A11, so that'll do nicely)...

Shhh!

It is really, really horrible around this part of the world. Awful place, London is so much better. Nothing to do, all the locals have 19 toes and there are no good driving roads.

That should keep them away for a few more years

[Hitch78]

Some people love it, some hate it. Fair enough; you'll find the same of Sydney, New York, London, Cornwall...anywhere.

I love it, as does my wife. Some of the locals drive a bit crazy but no more so than your average mouth breathing MaccyDs crew member.

The sand in the car thing - is it really an issue? My cars are outside all of the time here in the heat and dust and so long as you change the oil regularly (which is cheap as chips) there are no problems.

Ten minutes with a hose and half an hour of polishing and you would not be able to tell that Enzo has been out for two years. I am amazed it hasn't just turned up at a dealers as a low mileage example!

[Motorrad]

Off topic I suppose but given enough money I find it hard to understand how anyone could be bored in Dubai.

I'd be down the kart track most nights for a start........followed by some whoring and heavy drinking.

Perhaps my idea of fun is a little limited and a pint of real ale in Norfolk would be more the ticket......(actually I quite fancy that as well).

[shirt]

splitpin said:

shirt said:

i find the reverse to be true. if you are bored as a resident here then you have a very narrow outlook.

I can only recommend that you spend a bit less time posting on here (if there's that much to do, how come you've got the time?) and get out and see a bit more of the rest of the World, it's way more interesting and far less boring than where you're located at the mo and if you were more widely travelled you'd know that.

that's not what you said though is it? you said it was a mind numbingly boring place to live. i travel widely enough, and would not defend dubai as some kind of paradise, but no way is it boring.

[cjb1]

I'm fortunate to have travelled extensively, I've experienced the crime and poverty of Nigeria, Congo & Angola, the political difficulties of Iran & Syria, the other side of the coin is that I've seen the richer side of the States in Dallas and Houston, the pretentiousness of Dubai and Abu Dhabi, the beauty of the jewels of Scandinavia, Europe and Madeira, but I’ll tell you moaning miserable buggers complaining about the UK, no matter where I'm returning from, there's nothing to compare with the feeling I get when we're on final approach to British soil. As 'splitpin' suggests, get out more you bloody ‘not-knowing’ moaners!!!!!!

splitpin said:

I can only recommend that you spend a bit less time posting on here (if there's that much to do, how come you've got the time?) and get out and see a bit more of the rest of the World, it's way more interesting and far less boring than where you're located at the mo and if you were more widely travelled you'd know that.

[craigb84]

splitpin said:

Point taken and for the young single bloke, there's certainly far worse places to be; but it's a pretty lousy place for SWMBO unless she's happy to be living back in the Dark Ages don't you think? Got to admit that I actually do like having Seasons as well, rather than varying Regulo Settings.

Swings and roundabouts to an extent. I'm enjoying being back in the uk again. You don't ever have that overhanging feeling of potentially offending someone and the general systems here are far less complicated (such as getting a mobile phone contract without needing your employer to write a letter saying you can have one).

[Mike Biddle]

Have not got time right now to read all the posts but since I live in Dubai, I can guess what has probably happened here.

i very much doubt it has anything to do with speeding fines, the most likey scenario is that the guy had bought the car on finance and susequently lost his job or his business, making him unable to mantain the payments.

When taking out any loan in Dubai you will have to sign a "security cheque" for the entire amount of the loan which the bank then holds in case you default.

If you default, they will present the cheque for payment, and after it has bounced 3 times they can go to the police and register a criminal complaint against you for writing a dud cheque.

The police will then enter your name passport details etc into the immigration system and you will not be allowed to leave the country. If caught you will be tried and go to jail for the offence, period depending on the amount you ripped the bank off for, and additionally not released untill you pay the money.

So, what many expats do in this situation is get the hell out of dodge before the bank has the opportunity to go to the police, often leaving the car unlocked in the airport car park.

[cjb1]

Spot on Mike......

Mike Biddle said:

Have not got time right now to read all the posts but since I live in Dubai, I can guess what has probably happened here.

i very much doubt it has anything to do with speeding fines, the most likey scenario is that the guy had bought the car on finance and susequently lost his job or his business, making him unable to mantain the payments.

When taking out any loan in Dubai you will have to sign a "security cheque" for the entire amount of the loan which the bank then holds in case you default.

If you default, they will present the cheque for payment, and after it has bounced 3 times they can go to the police and register a criminal complaint against you for writing a dud cheque.

The police will then enter your name passport details etc into the immigration system and you will not be allowed to leave the country. If caught you will be tried and go to jail for the offence, period depending on the amount you ripped the bank off for, and additionally not released untill you pay the money.

So, what many expats do in this situation is get the hell out of dodge before the bank has the opportunity to go to the police, often leaving the car unlocked in the airport car park.

[Wills2]

Soovy said:

cjb1 said:

being in debt in the UAE is not illegal, failing to honour them is......

Tyrewrecker said:

You are not allowed to be in debt, it is very serious.

Indeed. It's a pity that it's not the same here.

So you think we should start locking people up in debtors prisons then?

Plus Dubai is hardly the last word in financial prudence is it, having been bailed out by Abu dhabi.

[Domf]

Captain Muppet said:

Have you ever lived in rural Norfolk?

Or rural Indiana?

Or Hull?

There is a whole world of boring out there.

Your personal knowledge of the above or here say?
I've travelled and worked abroad spent time in Dubia, born in Hull still live in East Yorkshire, Norfork is okay.
By boring do mean tranquill, I'm sure many of the towns and Cities of the UK could be described as boring.
But ask yourself do you think the people of Bahrain would like to be boring at the moment, I think the answer is 'YES'.

[cjb1]

FFS!! I didn't say that I thought it was right to to bang people up for being in debt you clot, I merely stated the fact that it's illegal to fail to pay back a debt in that region. Nor did I suggest that Dubaie was financially secure, are dreaming some of the BS you write? Read before you type......

Wills2 said:

So you think we should start locking people up in debtors prisons then?

Plus Dubai is hardly the last word in financial prudence is it, having been bailed out by Abu dhabi.

[Captain Muppet]

Domf said:

Captain Muppet said:

Have you ever lived in rural Norfolk?

Or rural Indiana?

Or Hull?

There is a whole world of boring out there.

Your personal knowledge of the above or here say?
I've travelled and worked abroad spent time in Dubia, born in Hull still live in East Yorkshire, Norfork is okay.
By boring do mean tranquill, I'm sure many of the towns and Cities of the UK could be described as boring.
But ask yourself do you think the people of Bahrain would like to be boring at the moment, I think the answer is 'YES'.

I've lived in all three places for long enough to have run out of new things to do.

Indiana was two months, which is a personal record. I even took a tour of churches in Columbus, and a guided tour of the track at Indianapolis (yep, a tour of an oval). I found it very telling that in Stephen Fry's travels around America the only interesting thing he could find to do in Indiana was ride in a fire truck.

I spent years in Hull, and enjoyed it, but the three months I was there on the dole with no money to spend were pretty dull, despite the free swimming and racing cars on Beverly Road at rush hour on my bicycle. Actually the playing in traffic was probably the result of boredom, or depression.

I was born in rural Norfolk and was bored of it within minutes of learning what being bored was.

I have no opinions about Dubai or Bahrain, I was just hoping to introduce some contrasting locations for dullness.

[splitpin]

Wills2 said:

So you think we should start locking people up in debtors prisons then?

Plus Dubai is hardly the last word in financial prudence is it, having been bailed out by Abu dhabi.

No, he didn't say that - he was saying that paying back what you owe rather than someone inviting you to go for a free 'Get Out Of The Whatnot' card is a sound idea/concept and I certainly agree with that, as will anyone who has done good work in good faith only to face a 'runner' (legal or illegal, either a scam) and be left completely out of pocket.

Trouble is actually applying it - it's hard to get tough with the little piggies when you've let the King Porkers (bankers & such) empty the trough, then you've filled it back up for them and then let them in for another hoggish go.

[splitpin]

Rude-boy said:

That should keep them away for a few more years

Yes it is an utterly dire place; as I quite fancy being thoroughly miserable and totally bored for the rest of my life, I may well move back there soon.