RE: Abandoned Enzo part of Dubai supercar sale

RE: Abandoned Enzo part of Dubai supercar sale

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CraigyMc

16,420 posts

237 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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shirt said:
i would pop along and take pics but they are asking £20 just to attend the auction. apart from the enzo it wouldnt be worth going anyway, not like we're short of supercars locally.
It's about £20 to watch the auction.

If you want to bid at all, the fee to do that (ahead of the auction) is about £10000.

C

blasos

347 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Pistonheads said:
debt being a criminal offence in the UAE.
I can see how this works for an individual country, but this is at odds with the monetary system since all money is created through debt. If every country applied these rules then the system would collapse. Of course the system is collapsing anyway. All the money the boys and girls in the UAE have is a debt owed to a bank by some other people somewhere else in the world.

R11ysf

1,936 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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CraigyMc said:
shirt said:
i would pop along and take pics but they are asking £20 just to attend the auction. apart from the enzo it wouldnt be worth going anyway, not like we're short of supercars locally.
It's about £20 to watch the auction.

If you want to bid at all, the fee to do that (ahead of the auction) is about £10000.

C
Isn't it £2 to watch the auction? (according to the article anyway)

ivantate

166 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Nice to hear it actually got used.

I am thinking in the same situation, whatever it actually was, would dump the car and run.

Live fast and retire to a none extradition country to tell stories about daring do in the desert. Sounds OK.

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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link to auction !!???????

shirt

22,600 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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R11ysf said:
Isn't it £2 to watch the auction? (according to the article anyway)
it's AED110, divide by 6 for sterling. that's more than it costs me for a tank of superunleaded FFS! wink


blasos said:
can see how this works for an individual country, but this is at odds with the monetary system since all money is created through debt. If every country applied these rules then the system would collapse. Of course the system is collapsing anyway. All the money the boys and girls in the UAE have is a debt owed to a bank by some other people somewhere else in the world.
debt isn't a criminal offence, not being able to repay those debts is. huge difference. bouncing cheques, for instance, can get you 6yrs.



SonnyM

3,472 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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housen said:
link to auction !!???????
It doesn't appear to be online. But given it was known to be a high value car, why didn't the bell ends oops I mean Police cover it up or keep it indoors to preserve it...

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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SonnyM said:
housen said:
link to auction !!???????
It doesn't appear to be online. But given it was known to be a high value car, why didn't the bell ends oops I mean Police cover it up or keep it indoors to preserve it...
sounds like free money

local dealer fest

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Give it a couple of days and that Enzo will be up at Ras Al Khor with a full Ferrari service history and being advertised as "daily use since new"


Hitch78

6,107 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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SonnyM said:
It doesn't appear to be online. But given it was known to be a high value car, why didn't the bell ends oops I mean Police cover it up or keep it indoors to preserve it...
Its not their car and they'll never see the money. Why would they care?

All that they did was leave it outside - it is just a little dusty!

Snakes

614 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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SonnyM said:
It doesn't appear to be online. But given it was known to be a high value car, why didn't the bell ends oops I mean Police cover it up or keep it indoors to preserve it...
This is the link I think but no Ferraris on the list?

R11ysf

1,936 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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shirt said:
it's AED110, divide by 6 for sterling. that's more than it costs me for a tank of superunleaded FFS! wink
Fair enough, I was just doing the maths from £1k to enter the auction as I just read...

Article said:
People who want to bid in the auction must pay a deposit of Dhs50,000 ahead of the sale. Those who simply want to watch the drama of one of the world’s rarest cars being auctioned need to pay Dhs110 for entry to the sale.
So does that mean entry to just to bid in the Auction is £8,000 yikes !!!!

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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That does make it 8k GBP but I suspect it'll be the same as some auctions in the UK, you get the deposit back if you don't buy a vehicle..... it's just a way of filtering out dreamers.

DonkeyApple

55,389 posts

170 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Cheeky Jim said:
It was probably bought on tic... then when the big crash happened, he suddenly realised he couldn't afford the repayments..... add on a few hefty fines and it's easier to do a runner than face jail time...

As I don't think we have a reciprocal arrangement with the UAE for deporting 'suspects', he's kinda got off...
Spot on.

The parking/speeding fines comment wa just a gib, fun remark.

This is a car that was over 90% financed and the 'owner' lost his job and legged it as the rent on his appartment, the finance on the car and all his food and drink bills were greater per month than his basic income.

SonnyM

3,472 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Cheeky Jim said:
It was probably bought on tic... then when the big crash happened, he suddenly realised he couldn't afford the repayments..... add on a few hefty fines and it's easier to do a runner than face jail time...

As I don't think we have a reciprocal arrangement with the UAE for deporting 'suspects', he's kinda got off...
Spot on.

The parking/speeding fines comment wa just a gib, fun remark.

This is a car that was over 90% financed and the 'owner' lost his job and legged it as the rent on his appartment, the finance on the car and all his food and drink bills were greater per month than his basic income.
I'm sure the News of the World will track him down at some point if they haven't done already...

craigb84

1,493 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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K50 DEL said:
Give it a couple of days and that Enzo will be up at Ras Al Khor with a full Ferrari service history and being advertised as "daily use since new"
And 'one careful expat owner'.

redgriff500

26,892 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Mr-B said:
Tyrewrecker said:
You are not allowed to be in debt, it is very serious.
Maybe us Brits and the government could learn from that.
Seconded - why it's deemed acceptable to walk away from your debts I have no idea.


splitpin

2,740 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Let's not get too carried away with the UAE being held up as any sort of 'exemplar'.

I've spent some time there and my abiding memories are 1) front page daily news usually being some Member of the Royal Family presenting some close relative with some sort of lifetime award for something or other and 2) loads of immigrant workers being housed in containers and living in desperate poverty round the back of five star hotels.

It's a veritable st-hole completely devoid of any sort of 'culture' that any Westerner would recognise and I think it's only a question of time before it all goes pop big-time like Libya, Egypt etc.

By the way, 'traffic fines' of near enough £20K are not unheard of.

CraigyMc

16,420 posts

237 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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R11ysf] said:
So does that mean entry to just to bid in the Auction is £8,000 yikes !!!!
Yes. that was my point, albeit my maths was a little off.

C

redgriff500

26,892 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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splitpin said:
Let's not get too carried away with the UAE being held up as any sort of 'exemplar'.
No one was advocating copying it as a whole but most societies have various parts that are better than ours - we could just copy the good bits.