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CampDavid
7,843 posts
68 months
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bmthnick1981 said: CampDavid said: detomaso said: melvster said: Like these a lot  The Bork to purchase price ratio is hot on these Indeed. Very nice though. I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari. Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series. I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable. Styling is awkward and the interior tacky I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one.
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Crook
3,551 posts
94 months
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CampDavid said: I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari.
Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series.
I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable.
Styling is awkward and the interior tacky
I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one. I've been told, however, that they go quite like the veritable stink.
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Output Flange
12,493 posts
81 months
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Crook said: I've been told, however, that they go quite like the veritable stink. That's an early, pre-Evoluzione model though...
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melvster
5,508 posts
55 months
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CampDavid said: I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari.
Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series.
I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable.
Styling is awkward and the interior tacky
I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one. I remember the feature in Evo mag, also there was that Lister tuned Jag XJ and Porsche 928.
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CampDavid
7,843 posts
68 months
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melvster said: CampDavid said: I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari.
Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series.
I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable.
Styling is awkward and the interior tacky
I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one. I remember the feature in Evo mag, also there was that Lister tuned Jag XJ and Porsche 928. Indeed - They called Lister for parts prices and the guy on the end of the phone said "err, haven't these all been scrapped by now?" 
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Crook
3,551 posts
94 months
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Output Flange said: Crook said: I've been told, however, that they go quite like the veritable stink. That's an early, pre-Evoluzione model though... Is that slower then? They're still a twin turbo V6 though aren't they?
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Output Flange
12,493 posts
81 months
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Crook said: Is that slower then? They're still a twin turbo V6 though aren't they? Evo model got a bigger engine - 2.8 vs 3.2 IIRC?
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CampDavid
7,843 posts
68 months
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Output Flange said: Crook said: Is that slower then? They're still a twin turbo V6 though aren't they? Evo model got a bigger engine - 2.8 vs 3.2 IIRC? 285 plays 335bhp. Should be quick enough I guess
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E30M3SE
6,750 posts
66 months
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Evolution models were built under Ferrari ownership, launched 1998, there were 480 odd changes made to the car, the engine outputs were not one of the changes.
All three engines, 2.0 V6 TT (Italian tax break market), 2.8V6 TT and 3.2 V8 TT, were available through the production run.
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W00DY
7,848 posts
96 months
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E30M3SE said: Evolution models were built under Ferrari ownership, launched 1998, there were 480 odd changes made to the car, the engine outputs were not one of the changes.
All three engines, 2.0 V6 TT (Italian tax break market), 2.8V6 TT and 3.2 V8 TT, were available through the production run.  There is something rather charming about a QP IV.
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BillyB
1,046 posts
128 months
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MattOz said: V8mate said: Cartwheel said: V8mate said: Bork Diagnosis please:
Modern turbo diesel Beemer.
Moving at reasonable speed - say 0.8-0.9 leptons - full passenger compartment, and driving up an incline. Basically, all the loadings are prevalent.
You feel a momentary hesitance/loss of power through the accelerator pedal. As if someone squeezed a rubber fuel hose for less than a second.
Likely to be a fuel supply issue? Turbo-wobble? Something else? Dirty MAF? Turbo? Fuel pump? I've had this on my 330XD in similar circumstances but haven't got round to taking it in to les local spanner monkeys yet so I'm also  Yep - I think I'll get the diagnosis thingie plugged in this weekend - don't really want to pay a dealer £80 simply to tell me what the OBC is saying. Does yours only happen when the car is under heavy load too? It's only happened 3 or 4 times, but they were always at speed when pressing on up an incline. Could be any of the above. Might also be the oil separator getting clogged up under load, causing pressure on the turbo and stalling it momentarily. Again, simple to swap out and something that should be done every service (IMHO) anyway. Small vacuum hose leak, only occurring under max load?
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melvster
5,508 posts
55 months
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V8mate
35,296 posts
59 months
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CampDavid said: melvster said: CampDavid said: I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari.
Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series.
I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable.
Styling is awkward and the interior tacky
I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one. I remember the feature in Evo mag, also there was that Lister tuned Jag XJ and Porsche 928. Indeed - They called Lister for parts prices and the guy on the end of the phone said "err, haven't these all been scrapped by now?" There used to be a chap - Twitchy Keith - ran a buy/sell/break yard (mainly break) for Yank cars on the site which is now occupied by the O2 arena. I bought plenty of septic bork from him between 1985-89. In the last 12-18 months that I used him, he was additionally breaking, in some cases, very late Masers at an alarming rate as they haemorrhaged in front of their owners' eyes.
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Pesty
26,137 posts
126 months
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CampDavid said: bmthnick1981 said: CampDavid said: detomaso said: melvster said: Like these a lot The Bork to purchase price ratio is hot on these Indeed. Very nice though. I remember when they were £20k and in an Evo shootout with a Ferrari 348 and some other kit. The cost of maintainance was about twice that of the Ferrari. Whn JC tested it on old Top Gear he ripped it appart as inferior to a 3 series. I had a poke around one - everything feels utterly breakable. Styling is awkward and the interior tacky I would suggest this is an aweful, aweful car and I'm therefor at a complete loss as to why I really, really want one. Could you put an LS3 in it if it went bang ?
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Output Flange
12,493 posts
81 months
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Pesty said: Could you put an LS3 in it if it went bang ? You can put an LS3 in anything.
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JamesK
2,020 posts
149 months
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richtea78 said: L100NYY said: Its amazing that people drive fiestas when that car is not much different in price! I love that but 110bhp is pitiful! Why do all classic cars have to be so gutless? I know power isn't everything and handling blah blah enjoyment blah but come on, 110bhp??
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CampDavid
7,843 posts
68 months
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Output Flange said: Pesty said: Could you put an LS3 in it if it went bang ? You can put an LS3 in anything. One of the guys I went to the N24 with is debating the merits of said LS into a broked funf which he has sitting in his garden
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L100NYY
26,787 posts
113 months
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JamesK said: richtea78 said: L100NYY said: Its amazing that people drive fiestas when that car is not much different in price! I love that but 110bhp is pitiful! Why do all classic cars have to be so gutless? I know power isn't everything and handling blah blah enjoyment blah but come on, 110bhp?? Kind of missing the point there really although more power is achievable from these.
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Output Flange
12,493 posts
81 months
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CampDavid said: One of the guys I went to the N24 with is debating the merits of said LS into a broked funf which he has sitting in his garden Which E of funf?
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CampDavid
7,843 posts
68 months
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L100NYY said: JamesK said: richtea78 said: L100NYY said: Its amazing that people drive fiestas when that car is not much different in price! I love that but 110bhp is pitiful! Why do all classic cars have to be so gutless? I know power isn't everything and handling blah blah enjoyment blah but come on, 110bhp?? Kind of missing the point there really although more power is achievable from these. "Harvey Bailey Handling kit fitted" Sublime
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