Enjoy your summer pint, but...
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fatboy69 said:
That was my point, badly put across i think, with my initial post re a zero limit. However many other countries have limits substantially lower than ours.
Estonia, Malta, Romania & Hungary to name four have a zero limit with Norway, Poland & Sweden having a limit of 0.2mg per milliletre & countries such as Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Austria, Poland, Spain, Turkey, Cyprus & Germany all having a lower limit that us which 0.5mg per millilitre - reduced to 0.3mg per ml in Germany in an RTA.
Might i suggest you look at the punishments they dole out before comparing their limit to oursEstonia, Malta, Romania & Hungary to name four have a zero limit with Norway, Poland & Sweden having a limit of 0.2mg per milliletre & countries such as Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Austria, Poland, Spain, Turkey, Cyprus & Germany all having a lower limit that us which 0.5mg per millilitre - reduced to 0.3mg per ml in Germany in an RTA.
fatboy69 said:
I was just making a suggestion thats all. So who has a more workable solution?
heres a radical ideaEnforce the current law?
What is a realistic aim & how do you achieve it?
I'm also going to drop out of this thread as there is obviously no workable solution to the problem. I wasn't quite prepared for the abuse to be honest as I dont think my initial post warranted it.
I'm also going to drop out of this thread as there is obviously no workable solution to the problem. I wasn't quite prepared for the abuse to be honest as I dont think my initial post warranted it.
Edited by fatboy69 on Thursday 26th April 19:51
fatboy69 said:
What is a realistic aim & how do you achieve it?
The only ways you can completely stop drink driving is one of the followingA remove all alcohol from the UK
B remove all cars from the UK
C remove all people from the UK
All of which are ridiculous
An alternative is to say we don't have a drink drive problem as quite frankly i don't believe we do have a drink drive problem as we have far more pressing issues
Christ there are some Sanctimonious folk in here tonight.
If you are genuine OP- well, you won't do it twice. I wish you well in whatever life brings.
To all the bile spewing retards- stop to consider the last time you did 80mph, or 34 in a 30.
A safe bet would be that everyone on here has broken the law in their car at some stage or another.
The guy has posted quite sensible advice- think about the consequences of drinking and driving.
It doesn't need tossers on high horses with their amazingly high morals condemning his actions- I would think he is well aware of them by now.
If you are genuine OP- well, you won't do it twice. I wish you well in whatever life brings.
To all the bile spewing retards- stop to consider the last time you did 80mph, or 34 in a 30.
A safe bet would be that everyone on here has broken the law in their car at some stage or another.
The guy has posted quite sensible advice- think about the consequences of drinking and driving.
It doesn't need tossers on high horses with their amazingly high morals condemning his actions- I would think he is well aware of them by now.
fatboy69 said:
Irish said:
The current limit is damn near zero. Sorry fb69 but you argument could be applied to speeding and a number of similar offences. OP - good thread.
Fair point Irish & more eloquently put than simply calling me a moron just because i dared post to a comment on here.DD is an emotive subject & whilst i dont want to ban everything that people enjoy - smoking, drinking, driving (not together obviously), hunting etc - we all know that DD is a killer, as is speeding, & as i have just said how else do you get the message over to those who know the limit yet still choose to drive when they know they shouldnt.
I know the same applies to speeding & i would ask the same question there - what do you do to stamp it out?
That was my point, badly put across i think, with my initial post re a zero limit. However many other countries have limits substantially lower than ours.
Estonia, Malta, Romania & Hungary to name four have a zero limit with Norway, Poland & Sweden having a limit of 0.2mg per milliletre & countries such as Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Austria, Poland, Spain, Turkey, Cyprus & Germany all having a lower limit that us which 0.5mg per millilitre - reduced to 0.3mg per ml in Germany in an RTA.
I was just making a suggestion thats all. So who has a more workable solution?
When the breathaliser was bought in in the late 90s the police were outraged at the thought of only 4 pints and even today they couldn't care less about drink driving. Oddly, being in charge of a boat while over the limit is an offence and they're actually really hot on it.
thinfourth2 said:
Goodbye
Stop suffering from the "something must be done" disease
No need for that comment. I'll assume that you are one of the 'head iin the sand, it'll be ok' brigade?Stop suffering from the "something must be done" disease
FWIW the reason that I might, or might not, advocate a zero limit is because I lost two good friends to a drunk driver. They were walking on the footpath minding their own business whilst some drunken tard ploughed into them when he drove onto the pavement!
At the ensuing Court case he said that had the two people got out of the way he wouldn't have hit them! Little prick.
He was on the pavement & he was so drunk he couldn't stand up when plod dragged humour of the car.
He blew 4 times the legal limit....
According to safe travel.co.uk the legal limit in Malta is 0.0 mg per mil whilst the rhino car hire website says that the Malta limit is 0.08% & the economy car hire website says that the limit in Malta is 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood so who do you believe?
I took what I wrote straight from the internet.
I took what I wrote straight from the internet.
Good post and warning to others. Don't want to argue or anything but you got what you deserved...you are alive and don't have a death on your conscience.
I've not read all this thread - just your post so forgive me if someone has asked this.
You took a car to your local? Why? Surely a local is just that - anything within walking distance and you should have got a taxi or a bus...but you know that.
Good warning to all. I hope things improve and you get back some of what you lost.
I've not read all this thread - just your post so forgive me if someone has asked this.
You took a car to your local? Why? Surely a local is just that - anything within walking distance and you should have got a taxi or a bus...but you know that.
Good warning to all. I hope things improve and you get back some of what you lost.
It seems that my original posting has been torn to threads because some people seem to think that i was suggesting banning drinking altogether which isn't what I said.
I am sensible enough to understand that the drink drink problem will never be irradiated however I feel that the deterents should be stiffer.
I am sensible enough to understand that the drink drink problem will never be irradiated however I feel that the deterents should be stiffer.
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