Enjoy your summer pint, but...
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Just introduce RBTs.
Pull over a group of cars. Test each driver.
They have been here for years and it hasn't caused any issues. And it has dramatically cut the rate of drink driving.
OP - sorry you had to put up with the usual keyboard warrior bulls
t that is becoming more and more commonplace.
Pull over a group of cars. Test each driver.
They have been here for years and it hasn't caused any issues. And it has dramatically cut the rate of drink driving.
OP - sorry you had to put up with the usual keyboard warrior bulls
t that is becoming more and more commonplace. I wasn't aware drink driving was still a major problem. I only know of two people that have drunk drove and they both got caught.
A zero limit wouldnt stop the problem, it would increase it. Anyone with any alcohol in their system would be a drink driver and taken to court, jesus, the court system would grind to a halt!
A zero limit wouldnt stop the problem, it would increase it. Anyone with any alcohol in their system would be a drink driver and taken to court, jesus, the court system would grind to a halt!
thinfourth2 said:
fatboy69 said:
Surely just one less drunk driver on the road would be a good thing. Wouldn't it?
So how aboutBan all cars
It solves the drink driving problems
It also solves speeding, un insured drivers, bad drivers, etc and so on
If it saves one life it would be worth it
had me till the last linethinfourth2 said:
So how about
Ban all cars
It solves the drink driving problems
It also solves speeding, un insured drivers, bad drivers, etc and so on
If it saves one life it would be worth it
I get my daughter to drive when on the lash. Ban all cars
It solves the drink driving problems
It also solves speeding, un insured drivers, bad drivers, etc and so on
If it saves one life it would be worth it
She rarely has more than a couple of pints and I can't imagine the police would arrest and charge a 2 year old anyway.
Phil Mitchell said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
how about just banning alcohol?
if it stops just 50% of pub fights, rapes, domestic violence, accidents in the home etc etc
Im all for it, its as bad as heroin and should be banned along with fagsif it stops just 50% of pub fights, rapes, domestic violence, accidents in the home etc etc
Im tea total these days, lifeis much better
Phil Mitchell said:
Im all for it, its as bad as heroin and should be banned along with fags
Im tea total these days, lifeis much better
So now you've finished driving like a complete cretin, and quit drinking, you feel that the alcohol level for driving should be zero, and possibly banned all together?Im tea total these days, lifeis much better
Fortunately the vast majority of people are far more capable and responsible than you were, and I see no reason why everyone should pay the penalty for your unfortunate experiences.
Is my troll radar broken?
Steameh said:
I wasn't aware drink driving was still a major problem. I only know of two people that have drunk drove and they both got caught.
A zero limit wouldnt stop the problem, it would increase it. Anyone with any alcohol in their system would be a drink driver and taken to court, jesus, the court system would grind to a halt!
Hi, First post and all that.A zero limit wouldnt stop the problem, it would increase it. Anyone with any alcohol in their system would be a drink driver and taken to court, jesus, the court system would grind to a halt!
Drink driving is a regular occurance in my local. They think that as its in the countryside there won't be anyone around to catch them. I have seen people stagger out of the pub, fall over and get into their cars. Its usually at this point that I phone the old bill.
As for the zero limit well it won't work. The human body will always have a small trace of alcohol in it regardless if you drink or not. So do you want to ban every human being from driving?
chrisxr2 said:
Erm, different spin slightly. I got done for drink driving whilst asleep in the car. (Posted on the site at length before) losing my licence made me find a job where driving is not required. Been in Offshore Oil and Gas industry 4 years now and consider myself very lucky to be where i am on more money and with more time off than i ever had in the forces or as a sales rep. I would never ever want to having to rely on public transport for a year and a half again though. Basically OP it doesnt have to be the end of the world. Thankfully my wife and family where very very supportive.
A friend was in court for the same thing recently. One of his defences was to ask what was the difference betwen sleeping whilst drunk in a parked up car and sleeping whilst drunk in a parked up motorhome. He fought it and won!bicycleshorts said:
Phil Mitchell said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
how about just banning alcohol?
if it stops just 50% of pub fights, rapes, domestic violence, accidents in the home etc etc
Im all for it, its as bad as heroin and should be banned along with fagsif it stops just 50% of pub fights, rapes, domestic violence, accidents in the home etc etc
Im tea total these days, lifeis much better
And ban dihydrogen monoxide its completely lethal, a cupful can kill you
If it saves one life
Just think of the children
I got done for DD about 3 years ago, I lost........the ability to get cheap insurance for the next 2 years. That's been about it. Work were sound about it (didn't need car for work), girlfriend at the time called me a plonker, parents were OK about it. Life carried on pretty much as normal just I couldn't drive. However as I was only just over the limit (blood reading of 86mg, breath was 41) I feel this may have affected people's attitudes slightly.
I had, however, had more than 3 pints, so I'm calling bullst on the OP doing that after what he claimed to have. I also wasn't put in a cell (just a waiting room), the police remarked on how sober I was, then dropped me back off at my car afterwards. So they OBVIOUSLY thought I was a menace.
Still regret doing it in the first place, but life goes on.
I had, however, had more than 3 pints, so I'm calling bulls
t on the OP doing that after what he claimed to have. I also wasn't put in a cell (just a waiting room), the police remarked on how sober I was, then dropped me back off at my car afterwards. So they OBVIOUSLY thought I was a menace. Still regret doing it in the first place, but life goes on.
A zero limit is not practical and would criminalise people who haven't really done anything wrong like having one small drink three hours ago that still shows up, why ruin someones life like that ? it would also devalue the drink driving conviction, I think even now there are people who just go over slightly and they are lumped in with the bloke found in a shop front slumped over the wheel unconscious but i guess that is one of the deterrents.
Whilst there is drink, people and cars the three will always come together and cause problems, there are not many other combinations that cause so many problems like those three, education is part of it but any person of driving age that doesn't understand the rules, that hasn't heard the concept of the morning after really shouldn't be driving a car, we are adequately educated so most of it is thinking they will be ok, turning a blind eye or willfully disregarding the rules and you cant legislate for that, the individual makes a choice, trouble is, the individual that has been drinking doesn't have the best judgement. It is down I suppose to how much you wan to keep your license, life and situation.
I don't think we can ever get to a situation where there is no drink driving and the attendant death and destruction it causes, human nature means it wont happen, best we can hope for is that a car is developed that will drive people home itself if they are drunk.
Whilst there is drink, people and cars the three will always come together and cause problems, there are not many other combinations that cause so many problems like those three, education is part of it but any person of driving age that doesn't understand the rules, that hasn't heard the concept of the morning after really shouldn't be driving a car, we are adequately educated so most of it is thinking they will be ok, turning a blind eye or willfully disregarding the rules and you cant legislate for that, the individual makes a choice, trouble is, the individual that has been drinking doesn't have the best judgement. It is down I suppose to how much you wan to keep your license, life and situation.
I don't think we can ever get to a situation where there is no drink driving and the attendant death and destruction it causes, human nature means it wont happen, best we can hope for is that a car is developed that will drive people home itself if they are drunk.
bodhi said:
I got done for DD about 3 years ago, I lost........the ability to get cheap insurance for the next 2 years. That's been about it. Work were sound about it (didn't need car for work), girlfriend at the time called me a plonker, parents were OK about it. Life carried on pretty much as normal just I couldn't drive. However as I was only just over the limit (blood reading of 86mg, breath was 41) I feel this may have affected people's attitudes slightly.
I had, however, had more than 3 pints, so I'm calling bullst on the OP doing that after what he claimed to have. I also wasn't put in a cell (just a waiting room), the police remarked on how sober I was, then dropped me back off at my car afterwards. So they OBVIOUSLY thought I was a menace.
Still regret doing it in the first place, but life goes on.
It didn't make any difference to my life eitherI had, however, had more than 3 pints, so I'm calling bulls
t on the OP doing that after what he claimed to have. I also wasn't put in a cell (just a waiting room), the police remarked on how sober I was, then dropped me back off at my car afterwards. So they OBVIOUSLY thought I was a menace. Still regret doing it in the first place, but life goes on.
I bought a different car and just drove through the ban anyway, the amount I saved in not having insurance for the 30 months offset a lot of the insurance increase once I got my licence back and started getting insurance again. This was before ANPR was so popular though
Words fail me. Muppet or Troll??
Phil Mitchell said:
It didn't make any difference to my life either
I bought a different car and just drove through the ban anyway, the amount I saved in not having insurance for the 30 months offset a lot of the insurance increase once I got my licence back and started getting insurance again. This was before ANPR was so popular though
I bought a different car and just drove through the ban anyway, the amount I saved in not having insurance for the 30 months offset a lot of the insurance increase once I got my licence back and started getting insurance again. This was before ANPR was so popular though
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