Enjoy your summer pint, but...

Enjoy your summer pint, but...

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BRMMA

1,845 posts

171 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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You're a renegade on the highway to hell etc

it must've been pretty funny for onlookers seeing some guy in his 'tailored suit' trying to act the big I am in front of his goon mates ploughing his MX5 into a parked car, though probably not so funny for you

I did loads of stupid stuff in my younger days, luckily got away with it so whilst i agree it was a dumb thing to do and definitely something i wouldn't even contemplate now i'd be a hypocrite to give you some of the abuse others have on here

Veloce2012

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8 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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bqf said:
This is his first post? He's having a laugh, surely. Doesnt ring true for me - especially the bit about the parents.

I think this is horsepoo. I call custard.
I've been on PH for years, this isn't the sort of thing posted under your normal user name but really did want to post as I wasn't alone in those who think they'll be fine. As for the parents, if you have a good background, good job and manage to loose it all because of an act of stupidity I doubt I'm alone on that one. I'm happy to arrange the custard.

Chris71

21,535 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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aka_kerrly said:
Chris71 said:
Sage advice.

Don't forget the morning after a big session too. For that matter the afternoon afterwards....
1 in 5 drivers convicted of being over the limit are caught the next day!

If the "average" person can process 1 unit of alcohol per hour and it takes barely 3-4units for an "average" person to be over the limit you can see how easily done it is.
Indeed, if we say you stop drinking at midnight (which is extremely conservative if you're on a big night out...) then six pints of Stella wouldn't fully leave your system until 6pm the following day and the average person would still be over the limit until about 2pm.

I wish human beings had an off switch for alcohol. I go to great lengths to avoid mixing the two, but I'd love to drive a load of B-roads to a nice country pub, have a few pints of interesting beer (not the Stella in the example wink) and then erase my inebriation in order to hoon back.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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He’s admitted to being a long term member posting under an alias.
Fair enough.

But I agree with a lot of other people.

All that happens seems to be based on more than just the drink driving.

If the insurance didn’t pay out I guess you had a big bill for the damage you caused to the other car.
If you lost your job it would have been hard to pay.

But, if you had a designed suit I would have assumed a sensible amount of savings to cover this. Even a crashed M5 (or whatever is was) would have been worth some cash to a scrapper.

I’m not calling you a liar by any means.
I’m just saying that if you look at you life the drink drive event may have been the turning point, but not necessarily the cause.

Sargeant Orange

2,687 posts

146 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Meh, st happens.

Your wife must having been getting a length elsewhere so really it's a blessing in disguise beer

MarioKart

47 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Chris71 said:
I'd love to drive a load of B-roads to a nice country pub, have a few pints of interesting beer (not the Stella in the example wink) and then erase my inebriation in order to hoon back.
Could you not just have a couple of interesting beers and drive back steadily? Assuming you are within the legal limit that is.

Or is the feeling here that mixing any amount of alcohol with driving is intolerable behaviour?

MarioKart

47 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Wow- don't think I'd try that. Couple of pints over the course of an hour or so maybe

onesickpuppy

2,648 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Japveesix said:
Just what I thought, the whole thing reads very strangely and sounds just like a drink drive campaign post.

Anyway, my last housemate's closet friend lived down in rural Somerset and had got a bit too used to drinking and driving home (nearest pub being a fair few miles away). He'd been warned about it a few times, once by the police, and was by all accounts a lovely chap otherwise but he simply liked the convenience of being able to drive back after "a few".

Anyway, couple of years ago he drove the few miles home he went to turn right across the road and failed to see the biker coming towards him. He hit and killed the biker, think it was a local chap and father, and went to prison. He was about 22/23 I guess and now faces 8 years in prison, my friend visits him fairly regularly and always comes back slightly miserable. My friend was the most outgoing, jolly and law-abiding person I know and it was very odd to think of his closet friend being in prison for such a horrible and tragic thing.

So OPs post makes sense and is a good message, drive safe folks smile
Does he miss the bumsex? I'll bet his closet friend is getting plenty.

wink

nistock

92 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Call me suspicious but there is something in your story which does not ring true. You say your insurance company refused to pay out. Why? If you were comprehensively insured they are obliged to pay out, drink or not. Even if you were third party only the insurance company would have to pay for damage to the other car. And why would anyone in their right mind have only third party cover on a MX5?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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MarioKart said:
Or is the feeling here that mixing any amount of alcohol with driving is intolerable behaviour?
My personal limit is nothing at all if I’m driving with 20 minutes.
A bottle of bud/becks/whatever if I’m driving within about 30 minutes to an hour.
One proper drink (pint or G&T or glass’o’vin) if I’m driving an hour or more after.

Anything more just isn’t worth the risk in my opinion.

That’s risk based on crashing or getting breathalysed.
They both carry an equal amount of deterrence for me.

Although, when I’m pissed and indestructibly clever and handsome it’s perhaps the legal threat that keeps me from driving.

As the old joke goes.
Judge – Young man. After drinking 10 pints why did you decide it was a good idea to get in your car and drive.
Man – Well, the thing is, at the time I made that decision I was drunk.

Japveesix

4,476 posts

167 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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onesickpuppy said:
Does he miss the bumsex? I'll bet his closet friend is getting plenty.

wink
Jesus, that's really all you have to contribute to the thread? Someone clearly has "bumsex" on the mind if that's all you got from my post smile

jon-

16,496 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Who cares if it's part of a BREAK drink driving campaign, sometimes it helps to remind people the obvious.

Don't fking drink and drive. Ever.

pstruck

3,518 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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jon- said:
Who cares if it's part of a BREAK drink driving campaign, sometimes it helps to remind people the obvious.

Don't fking drink and drive. Ever.
Exactly. I read the original post and it made me think about his situation and how much it would f*ck up my life if I were stupid enough to do the same. Surely that is the idea of the post, whether it is real or not.

If it is real, then I think it is obvious the guy knows he was bloody stupid and is paying for it.

If it is not real, then so what. I thought about it anyway.

MarioKart

47 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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jon- said:
Who cares if it's part of a BREAK drink driving campaign, sometimes it helps to remind people the obvious.

Don't fking drink and drive. Ever.
As in never have any amount of alcohol, or are you OK with someone having a pint then driving if they're within the limit?

You see I just don't belive my driving skills and decision making are significantly impaired if I have a drink or two over a reasonable time frame. I'm not saying I'd be entirely unaffected by the alcohol, but I'm confident that I'd still be less of a risk on the road than many sober people who drive like tts anyway!


nistock

92 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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There are tragedies which are happening all the time thanks to idiots who drink and drive. I should know as I am a lawyer who specialises in personal injury cases. BUT; insurance companies take premiums from all of us motorists and are obliged to pay out under their policies. I do not understand why, in the absence of any other factors, why cover was not granted in this case. And unless there is some reasonable explanation I believe this story is false.

Riknos

4,700 posts

203 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Veloce2012 said:
jjones said:
can i ask what car did you smash up and what had you drank?
Nothing spectacular - a new(ish) MX-5. The drinking was 3 pints in the course of just under a few hours, I had stupidly forgotten I'd had a pint over lunch, that was 4.5hrs prior to accident but didn't help.
So you weren't even remotely drunk, and weren't driving a stupidly powerful, can kill you if you don't concentrate car? How did you manage to crash it? confused

Seriously though, sorry to hear this...

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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MarioKart said:
jon- said:
Who cares if it's part of a BREAK drink driving campaign, sometimes it helps to remind people the obvious.

Don't fking drink and drive. Ever.
As in never have any amount of alcohol, or are you OK with someone having a pint then driving if they're within the limit?

You see I just don't belive my driving skills and decision making are significantly impaired if I have a drink or two over a reasonable time frame. I'm not saying I'd be entirely unaffected by the alcohol, but I'm confident that I'd still be less of a risk on the road than many sober people who drive like tts anyway!
^ WHS - If the limit was zero I wouldn't drink and drive at all but it isn't so I will (within the limits allowed)

jon-

16,496 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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B'stard Child said:
MarioKart said:
jon- said:
Who cares if it's part of a BREAK drink driving campaign, sometimes it helps to remind people the obvious.

Don't fking drink and drive. Ever.
As in never have any amount of alcohol, or are you OK with someone having a pint then driving if they're within the limit?

You see I just don't belive my driving skills and decision making are significantly impaired if I have a drink or two over a reasonable time frame. I'm not saying I'd be entirely unaffected by the alcohol, but I'm confident that I'd still be less of a risk on the road than many sober people who drive like tts anyway!
^ WHS - If the limit was zero I wouldn't drink and drive at all but it isn't so I will (within the limits allowed)
As you said providing it's legal and the persons not impaired I couldn't grumble could I. Hell, even I've had a (small) glass of wine with dinner then driven a few hours later.

When I said don't drink and drive, I should have qualified that as not over the limit.

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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jon- said:
As you said providing it's legal and the persons not impaired I couldn't grumble could I. Hell, even I've had a (small) glass of wine with dinner then driven a few hours later.

When I said don't drink and drive, I should have qualified that as not over the limit.
You said Don't fking drink and drive ever......

Yeah it needed a smidge of qualification biggrin

alock

4,224 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Chris71 said:
Indeed, if we say you stop drinking at midnight (which is extremely conservative if you're on a big night out...) then six pints of Stella wouldn't fully leave your system until 6pm the following day and the average person would still be over the limit until about 2pm.
I assume your assumption is that 1 pint of Stella is 3 units and you process 1 unit per hour?. If that's the case then you would have to drink all 6 units at midnight for your maths to work.
Far more likely is you drink 1 pint/hour from 6pm till midnight. In this scenario you're alcohol free by midday and potentially under the limit from 9am.

The benefits of getting older are that a good night out for me is now 3 pints and home by 10:30pm