RE: Diesel myths debunked

RE: Diesel myths debunked

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ADM06

1,077 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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annodomini2 said:
Other than the stigma Diesel experiences in the US, most of the drivers out there would probably appreciate a diesel.

They're use to torquey low revving v8's petrols, now they can have a torquey low revving v6 turbo diesel.
Lol wut? A petrol v8 will pull from as low as 500rpm, perhaps lower. Any diesel will not pull from below 2000rpm.
Low revving diesel myth, debunked.

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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If I were the US (Ok, that is impossible smile ) I'd skip Diesel and go straight for cleaner tech like hydrogen technology etc. Diesel is a horrid substance.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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ADM06 said:
Lol wut? A petrol v8 will pull from as low as 500rpm, perhaps lower. Any diesel will not pull from below 2000rpm.
Low revving diesel myth, debunked.
NSIS?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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ADM06 said:
Any diesel will not pull from below 2000rpm.
Low revving diesel myth, debunked.
WTF kind of diesels are you reffering to , my 525d is like a train from 1,000 rpm

It will sits at 70mph at around 1,900 rpm

There is so much stupid st being talked here

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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ADM06 said:
Lol wut? A petrol v8 will pull from as low as 500rpm, perhaps lower. Any diesel will not pull from below 2000rpm.
Low revving diesel myth, debunked.
Mine pulls from 1500 rpm in any gear.

Patrick Bateman

12,196 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Lost soul said:
WTF kind of diesels are you reffering to , my 525d is like a train from 1,000 rpm

It will sits at 70mph at around 1,900 rpm

There is so much stupid st being talked here
As low as that?

Is that an e60?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
As low as that?

Is that an e60?
Yes its an 05 E60 so it only has the 177 motor

Patrick Bateman

12,196 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Lost soul said:
Yes its an 05 E60 so it only has the 177 motor
It was just that my remapped 320Td needed to be approaching 2000rpm to have proper grunt. Haven't driven a 6 cylinder diesel but surely the turbo is a bit off from that at only 1000rpm?

annodomini2

6,868 posts

252 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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ADM06 said:
annodomini2 said:
Other than the stigma Diesel experiences in the US, most of the drivers out there would probably appreciate a diesel.

They're use to torquey low revving v8's petrols, now they can have a torquey low revving v6 turbo diesel.
Lol wut? A petrol v8 will pull from as low as 500rpm, perhaps lower. Any diesel will not pull from below 2000rpm.
Low revving diesel myth, debunked.
Like anything, depends on the engine and how it's setup.

I've driven diesels like you say, nothing, nothing, boost, rev limiter.

A lot of the newer stuff is much more progressive, with the turbo coming in earlier than 2000rpm and in a more controlled manner rather than on/off.

Low revving, in the context in which I was describing is peak revs, Diesels can't rev beyond 5200rpm with any usable torque. Physical limit of the combustion process.

Most factory yank v8's don't rev beyond 5500-6000rpm. So it's not as if you're looking for something that screams and screams.

ADM06

1,077 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Lost soul said:
WTF kind of diesels are you reffering to , my 525d is like a train from 1,000 rpm

It will sits at 70mph at around 1,900 rpm

There is so much stupid st being talked here
Yes but not by myself. Try driving in 5th at 20mph, bet it'll stall after shaking you to a minor concussion.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
Lost soul said:
Yes its an 05 E60 so it only has the 177 motor
It was just that my remapped 320Td needed to be approaching 2000rpm to have proper grunt. Haven't driven a 6 cylinder diesel but surely the turbo is a bit off from that at only 1000rpm?
Never seem to have to rev it very hard in day to day driving the BMW6 is a lovely bit of kit , it even sounds quite nice

m44kts

801 posts

201 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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I honestly don't mind diesels if they're a decent engine with a relatively good power output.

My current Merc. has the 3l V6 diesel and is pretty smooth, it has a nice linear power delivery and, it's really quiet on the move too, you can't actually hear the engine, just mostly road noise.

Saying that, my next motor should be a 5.4 supercharged V8 petrol laugh

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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ADM06 said:
Lost soul said:
WTF kind of diesels are you reffering to , my 525d is like a train from 1,000 rpm

It will sits at 70mph at around 1,900 rpm

There is so much stupid st being talked here
Yes but not by myself. Try driving in 5th at 20mph, bet it'll stall after shaking you to a minor concussion.
What car would not shake and stutter at 20mph in 5th

However mine will run at a steady 30mph in 5th

m44kts

801 posts

201 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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My Vivaro will happily sit at 30 in 6th if I'm just pootling along, no real drama from the engine as it sits at around 1100 rpm.

Fox-

13,242 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Lost soul said:
WTF kind of diesels are you reffering to , my 525d is like a train from 1,000 rpm

It will sits at 70mph at around 1,900 rpm

There is so much stupid st being talked here
Like a train? What, slowly? Trains don't accelerate rapidly.

The X1 I drove yesterday was totally breathless below 2k.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Fox- said:
Like a train? What, slowly? Trains don't accelerate rapidly.

The X1 I drove yesterday was totally breathless below 2k.
FFS you idiot we are not talking about speed are we , what i am saying is it pulls and does not stall


fozzymandeus

1,046 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Diesels might be fast, frugal and smooth.

But they are all rubbish. FACT.

10 PH points for moi.

fozzymandeus

1,046 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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swerni said:
fozzymandeus said:
Diesels might be fast, frugal and smooth.

But they are all rubbish. FACT.

10 PH points for moi.
Afraid not.

You lose 8 of those points for only buying the 350 on not the 55AMG.


Sorry.
I'll convert it to run on diesel and then get a remap.

Patrick Bateman

12,196 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Lost soul said:
FFS you idiot we are not talking about speed are we , what i am saying is it pulls and does not stall
What car stalls from 1000rpm upwards?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th April 2012
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Patrick Bateman said:
What car stalls from 1000rpm upwards?
Stalls as in having to change gear