Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?
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The other 5 are quite clearly listed on the link.
I think you're right, it's cars that stand out a bit, rather than ones people are jealous of that attract the attention of scrotes.
I'd probably take the snotter, not because it is vastly less likely to get keyed, but because I would be vastly less likely to care if it did. I again point to my mum's diesel Octavia and my dad's diesel Micra, both of which have been damaged, neither of which would inspire much jealousy.
I think you're right, it's cars that stand out a bit, rather than ones people are jealous of that attract the attention of scrotes.
I'd probably take the snotter, not because it is vastly less likely to get keyed, but because I would be vastly less likely to care if it did. I again point to my mum's diesel Octavia and my dad's diesel Micra, both of which have been damaged, neither of which would inspire much jealousy.
GTIR said:
As a teen my friends and I would pick up Mini's and move them, either in the middle of the road or if it was accessible the owners garden. We did it because it was funny and we never damaged any cars..well that was until we lifted up on old Mini and the wings ripped off slashing my mates hand. 
The odd thing was that I'd see that Mini afterwards and it still had my mates blood on the bonne and wingst.
My point is that teens do silly things and I'm not proud of what we did. It was not done maliciously just a bit of fun.
Similarly my neighbour had a Robin Reliant and every Saturday it would get pushed over on its side. It was quite normal to see it like that so non of the neighbors took any notice. She had a box full of new mirrors to replace the ones that got damaged.
It wasn't jealousy. Just high jinx.
That must of you being under the control of new labour with their time tunnelling mind control beam The odd thing was that I'd see that Mini afterwards and it still had my mates blood on the bonne and wingst.
My point is that teens do silly things and I'm not proud of what we did. It was not done maliciously just a bit of fun.
Similarly my neighbour had a Robin Reliant and every Saturday it would get pushed over on its side. It was quite normal to see it like that so non of the neighbors took any notice. She had a box full of new mirrors to replace the ones that got damaged.
It wasn't jealousy. Just high jinx.
Efbe said:
18 pages. I've read most, but think I might have missed some.
Has there actually been any evidence of increased car vandalism, or are we just talking dailyfail paranoia still?
and again, no-one is actually able to show that this is getting worse.Has there actually been any evidence of increased car vandalism, or are we just talking dailyfail paranoia still?
personally I think it's getting better
billybob69 said:
It is very hard to ever get proper statistics on it, but it does remind me of the Seattle Windshield Pitting Epidemic, where once someone says it is happening people suddenly notice the damage.
This is what I think is happening.Combined with far wider and more sensationalised news coverage, an issue that was previously not talked about all that much is suddenly 'widely held knowledge'.
People in this country (Which I have found is better than most for it!) don't question what they hear, they just accept it. 99% of people I know will completely accept what they ehar in the papers/ on tv. I suppose I am one of those annoying few that always wants to know; why are we being told this, what is the more likely story behind it, or is this just complete bull!
People like to complain, they like outrage, and they like to feel that is better off having the amount of money they have, and not to be as wealthy as others. It's lways nice to know you've got it lucky and thoe poor unfortunate b
ds who are millionaires have such horrible lives!Mobsta said:
Why is it that this type of behaviour, and the verbal abuse that accompanies 'flash car ownership' in this country is such an integral part of the behaviour and psychological makeup of so many in England? Folks dont abuse others with 'upmarket' or expensive purchases overseas. In fact, they opposite will apply. Interest, polite curiosity and no negativity will flow.
Tired of the UK. Cant see it changing in a hurry, either. Back to the question... Why?!? I'll wager not everyone here is completely innocent of this verbal abuse either.
It's a British thing and I have no idea where it's come from or why it exists. Had it myself in the UK with a nice car (not expensive by any means either). It got tiresome real quick.Tired of the UK. Cant see it changing in a hurry, either. Back to the question... Why?!? I'll wager not everyone here is completely innocent of this verbal abuse either.
It is and it isn't envy. I envy people who have a 911 for instance: it's a great car and I wish I had one. But I certainly wouldn't dream of damaging it, and I certainly respect people for earning enough to afford one. Some people just seem to take it further - "how dare someone else have something better than they do?". They get all beady eyed about it. I don't get it.
JDRoest said:
It's a British thing and I have no idea where it's come from or why it exists. Had it myself in the UK with a nice car (not expensive by any means either). It got tiresome real quick.
What makes you think it's just a British thing?I have lived in several countries for several years. Jealousy is human nature, but confined to the British. and if anything I have seen less of it in this country compared to most others I have lived in.
Efbe said:
JDRoest said:
It's a British thing and I have no idea where it's come from or why it exists. Had it myself in the UK with a nice car (not expensive by any means either). It got tiresome real quick.
What makes you think it's just a British thing?I have lived in several countries for several years. Jealousy is human nature, but confined to the British. and if anything I have seen less of it in this country compared to most others I have lived in.
And if you haven't seen much of it in the UK, then you obviously drive a car that no one envies
(<----note the smiley before you get all upset).JDRoest said:
Envy is a worldwide thing, but the British (and I am British) are just vindictive and spiteful about it.
And if you haven't seen much of it in the UK, then you obviously drive a car that no one envies (<----note the smiley before you get all upset).
I do see it in britain, and I do also have by far the prettiest car on the close we live on And if you haven't seen much of it in the UK, then you obviously drive a car that no one envies
(<----note the smiley before you get all upset). (also tongue firly in cheek)BUT, the same envy I see in this country, I have seen in every other country I have lived in. The British are no more vindictive/spiteful than any other country. Muggings, theft and car vandalism can all be seen as traits of jealousy, as well as people feeling this is the only way they will have to obtain such an item. However I have not seen any evidence to suggest we are worse than everyone else.
There are of course many many countries I haven't lived in, but I do have experience of Germany, Czech republic, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, America and Denmark. All had exactly the same issues. Possibly Japan and Taiwan had lower crime levels, but the jealousy was still there to a great extent.
Efbe said:
I do see it in britain, and I do also have by far the prettiest car on the close we live on (also tongue firly in cheek)
BUT, the same envy I see in this country, I have seen in every other country I have lived in. The British are no more vindictive/spiteful than any other country. Muggings, theft and car vandalism can all be seen as traits of jealousy, as well as people feeling this is the only way they will have to obtain such an item. However I have not seen any evidence to suggest we are worse than everyone else.
There are of course many many countries I haven't lived in, but I do have experience of Germany, Czech republic, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, America and Denmark. All had exactly the same issues. Possibly Japan and Taiwan had lower crime levels, but the jealousy was still there to a great extent.
Where did you live in Germany? A concentration camp? how long did you live there? (also tongue firly in cheek)BUT, the same envy I see in this country, I have seen in every other country I have lived in. The British are no more vindictive/spiteful than any other country. Muggings, theft and car vandalism can all be seen as traits of jealousy, as well as people feeling this is the only way they will have to obtain such an item. However I have not seen any evidence to suggest we are worse than everyone else.
There are of course many many countries I haven't lived in, but I do have experience of Germany, Czech republic, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, America and Denmark. All had exactly the same issues. Possibly Japan and Taiwan had lower crime levels, but the jealousy was still there to a great extent.
Western Germany is much much safer than the UK and the folks don't exhibit anywhere near the level of jealousy and bitterness as the UK. To suggest anything else is beyond dillusional. Open your eyes and stop being in denial- the UK is a festering s
t pitt and denial by folks like you makes it worse. Marquis Rex said:
Where did you live in Germany? A concentration camp? how long did you live there?
Western Germany is much much safer than the UK and the folks don't exhibit anywhere near the level of jealousy and bitterness as the UK. To suggest anything else is beyond dillusional. Open your eyes and stop being in denial- the UK is a festering st pitt and denial by folks like you makes it worse.
lived in warstein, albeit a few years ago now. very nice place tbh.Western Germany is much much safer than the UK and the folks don't exhibit anywhere near the level of jealousy and bitterness as the UK. To suggest anything else is beyond dillusional. Open your eyes and stop being in denial- the UK is a festering s
t pitt and denial by folks like you makes it worse. though I wouldn't consider murder rates as having anything to do with this, have you actually got anything to back up your claims that germany or any other country has far less jealousy and bitterness?
I have yet to see anything backing up these claims. please enlighten me.
edit:
what I am saying is the problem with us here in britain is that we are so bloody negative about our own country, when actually we have it just the same as everyone else. There is no national pride, no positive things to say about our own country, it's like the self-deprecating nature of the british has gone into overdrive about our country.
Edited by Efbe on Thursday 24th May 00:21
Efbe said:
lived in warstein, albeit a few years ago now. very nice place tbh.
though I wouldn't consider murder rates as having anything to do with this, have you actually got anything to back up your claims that germany or any other country has far less jealousy and bitterness?
I have yet to see anything backing up these claims. please enlighten me.
edit:
what I am saying is the problem with us here in britain is that we are so bloody negative about our own country, when actually we have it just the same as everyone else. There is no national pride, no positive things to say about our own country, it's like the self-deprecating nature of the british has gone into overdrive about our country.
You seem to exhibit the traits of leftism/socialism combined with patriotism or nationalism..... I see you DID pick up something from Germany then...though I wouldn't consider murder rates as having anything to do with this, have you actually got anything to back up your claims that germany or any other country has far less jealousy and bitterness?
I have yet to see anything backing up these claims. please enlighten me.
edit:
what I am saying is the problem with us here in britain is that we are so bloody negative about our own country, when actually we have it just the same as everyone else. There is no national pride, no positive things to say about our own country, it's like the self-deprecating nature of the british has gone into overdrive about our country.
Edited by Efbe on Thursday 24th May 00:21
Marquis Rex said:
Western Germany is much much safer than the UK and the folks don't exhibit anywhere near the level of jealousy and bitterness as the UK.
That's because they see Golfs as bread and butter cars, BMWs as normal cars and Mercedes as taxis. They have nothing foreign to park on their drives for pseudo-status purposes.Your concentration camp comment was in poor taste.
Marquis Rex said:
You seem to exhibit the traits of leftism/socialism combined with patriotism or nationalism..... I see you DID pick up something from Germany then...
heil comrade.i do think you are missing the point here though.
I am not saying britain is a wonderful place, or even nice. All I am saying as british people are far too negative about britain, whether this is some inbuilt social issue, or media manipulation or government or whatever I don't really care.
human nature is the same across the world, we are no more jealous here than in any other country.
Still after several requests, and I have tried looking myself, I see no evidence I am incorrect,
Efbe said:
heil comrade.
i do think you are missing the point here though.
I am not saying britain is a wonderful place, or even nice. All I am saying as british people are far too negative about britain, whether this is some inbuilt social issue, or media manipulation or government or whatever I don't really care.
human nature is the same across the world, we are no more jealous here than in any other country.
Still after several requests, and I have tried looking myself, I see no evidence I am incorrect,
jealousy is an emotion. and one very few people admit to. it's intangible and clandestine nature makes evidence tricky to come by.i do think you are missing the point here though.
I am not saying britain is a wonderful place, or even nice. All I am saying as british people are far too negative about britain, whether this is some inbuilt social issue, or media manipulation or government or whatever I don't really care.
human nature is the same across the world, we are no more jealous here than in any other country.
Still after several requests, and I have tried looking myself, I see no evidence I am incorrect,
not many surveys of delinquents will realise the output "yes, i scratched that car because i am jealous of that person's possessions...."
so i'm not sure what evidence you expect to find!
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