Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?
Discussion
jaedba2604 said:
jealousy is an emotion. and one very few people admit to. it's intangible and clandestine nature makes evidence tricky to come by.
not many surveys of delinquents will realise the output "yes, i scratched that car because i am jealous of that person's possessions...."
so i'm not sure what evidence you expect to find!
even one stating differences in reports of car vandalism would be good. preferably with some historical reporting so we could see trends within the countrynot many surveys of delinquents will realise the output "yes, i scratched that car because i am jealous of that person's possessions...."
so i'm not sure what evidence you expect to find!
obviously it would need to be apportioned to population numbers, and possibly would be affected by the numbers of cars in the country, but it could give some very good indications of differences between jealousy acted out in different countries.
Efbe said:
jaedba2604 said:
i think morrissey may have contended this point a while back. and, imo, he had a point.
can you explain that? I may be slightly uncultured google it.
jaedba2604 said:
Efbe said:
jaedba2604 said:
i think morrissey may have contended this point a while back. and, imo, he had a point.
can you explain that? I may be slightly uncultured google it.
Actually I think it is on-topic. I am suggesting that british jealousy is no worse than any other country, the actual difference is how we perceive our own country against others.
I'd be happy to change my opinion if I saw half decent evidence to the contrary
Efbe said:
Marquis Rex said:
You seem to exhibit the traits of leftism/socialism combined with patriotism or nationalism..... I see you DID pick up something from Germany then...
heil comrade.i do think you are missing the point here though.
I am not saying britain is a wonderful place, or even nice. All I am saying as british people are far too negative about britain, whether this is some inbuilt social issue, or media manipulation or government or whatever I don't really care.
human nature is the same across the world, we are no more jealous here than in any other country.
Still after several requests, and I have tried looking myself, I see no evidence I am incorrect,
XitUp said:
jaedba2604 said:
XitUp said:
It's slightly safer. Murder rate of 0.81 vs our 1.23. Thankfully neither are close to the 4.8 of where you live.
slightly?? looks like the UK is 50% less safe from your figures...XitUp said:
Canada has a higher gunerson ratio and a much lower murder rate. Gun ownership has very little to do with it.
Less people in Canada, more room for people to run away from those with guns.I wouldn't say gun ownership has very little to do with it. Nations with tight gun control have far lower gun death rates than America, so either Americans are naturally homicidal - more so than everybody else - or its because other countries put less guns in peoples hands.
XitUp said:
It's roughly halved since the 80s. I'd have been worried about your threat then.
Interesting side topic, go read what Steven Levitt puts the US crime drop of the 90s down to.
You can quote as many studies and figures as you want but the undeniable truth is this: Civilians having guns is a stupid idea.Interesting side topic, go read what Steven Levitt puts the US crime drop of the 90s down to.
Sorry, I'll take evidence over your opinion any day.
I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
martin84 said:
Less people in Canada, more room for people to run away from those with guns.
I wouldn't say gun ownership has very little to do with it. Nations with tight gun control have far lower gun death rates than America, so either Americans are naturally homicidal - more so than everybody else - or its because other countries put less guns in peoples hands.
Switzerland. Very high gun ownership, very low murder rate.I wouldn't say gun ownership has very little to do with it. Nations with tight gun control have far lower gun death rates than America, so either Americans are naturally homicidal - more so than everybody else - or its because other countries put less guns in peoples hands.
I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
XitUp said:
Switzerland. Very high gun ownership, very low murder rate.
I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
The Swiss are prone to shoot themselves rather frequently though you will find...I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
XitUp said:
Switzerland. Very high gun ownership, very low murder rate.
I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
Probably more to do with the degree of crowding and the expectation of what is unrealistically contained in the Bill of Rights like the right to have bare arms. I was wrong about Canada having more guns by the way, just looked it up.
But still, the correlation between gun ownership and murder rate is pretty weak.
Not to forget The American Dream.
The Swiss have no dream, they've already achieved it.
martin84 said:
XitUp said:
It's roughly halved since the 80s. I'd have been worried about your threat then.
Interesting side topic, go read what Steven Levitt puts the US crime drop of the 90s down to.
You can quote as many studies and figures as you want but the undeniable truth is this: Civilians having guns is a stupid idea.Interesting side topic, go read what Steven Levitt puts the US crime drop of the 90s down to.
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