Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?
Discussion
XitUp said:
The difference between rich and poor.
So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
and a majority proportion of that crime will be perpetrated by the lower income denizens of place b, the higher income citizens being the victims.So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
predominantly caused by the lower income populations' jealousy as they fail to respect or acknowledge the cause of the disparity in wealth.
seems to back up why status symbols are often targetted for vandalism.
i'm sure i've missed the point. if only because you'll tell me i have.
one further point, how you can say, in the same paragraph, that you don't know me but i am not as clever as i think i am mystifies me.
the pot of gold is there somewhere xitup, keep looking.
Will it? Can you show me the stats to back that up? Could it be the poor robbing the poor rather than the rich?
If you look at it in economic terms you could say that a few white collar criminals cause a lot more crime than a load of poor robbers.
The bit about you thinking you are cleverer than you are was just my opinion based on what you said. Opinion, not fact, not that important, just like your ad hominem attacks
If you look at it in economic terms you could say that a few white collar criminals cause a lot more crime than a load of poor robbers.
The bit about you thinking you are cleverer than you are was just my opinion based on what you said. Opinion, not fact, not that important, just like your ad hominem attacks
Randy Winkman said:
jaedba2604 said:
predominantly caused by the lower income populations' jealousy as they fail to respect or acknowledge the cause of the disparity in wealth.
What does this mean?
k.XitUp said:
Will it? Can you show me the stats to back that up? Could it be the poor robbing the poor rather than the rich?
If you look at it in economic terms you could say that a few white collar criminals cause a lot more crime than a load of poor robbers.
The bit about you thinking you are cleverer than you are was just my opinion based on what you said. Opinion, not fact, not that important, just like your ad hominem attacks
of course it could be. it also might be. If you look at it in economic terms you could say that a few white collar criminals cause a lot more crime than a load of poor robbers.
The bit about you thinking you are cleverer than you are was just my opinion based on what you said. Opinion, not fact, not that important, just like your ad hominem attacks
redistribution of wealth is not a sustainable economic model in the 21st century, it simply will not work. so please stop banging on about it.
martin84 said:
Randy Winkman said:
jaedba2604 said:
predominantly caused by the lower income populations' jealousy as they fail to respect or acknowledge the cause of the disparity in wealth.
What does this mean?k.i stand by what i say, i do think there is little recognition for how people have achieved in life, very few have it handed to them on a plate, but often there is a belief that if somebody has achieved, they have an easy life.
jaedba2604 said:
i stand by what i say, i do think there is little recognition for how people have achieved in life, very few have it handed to them on a plate, but often there is a belief that if somebody has achieved, they have an easy life.
Well they might not have had an easy life to get to where they are, although its undeniable that those born into middle class or more wealthy families have a better chance of getting places in life. However when you are rich, irrespective of how you got there you then do have an easy life. The vast majority of problems people face are related to money, so if you've got money then you're perfectly fine.Theres also much more to becoming successful than just working hard. Millions work hard every day but get nowhere, so lets not pretend you dont need a bit of luck along the way.
martin84 said:
Well they might not have had an easy life to get to where they are, although its undeniable that those born into middle class or more wealthy families have a better chance of getting places in life. However when you are rich, irrespective of how you got there you then do have an easy life. The vast majority of problems people face are related to money, so if you've got money then you're perfectly fine.
Theres also much more to becoming successful than just working hard. Millions work hard every day but get nowhere, so lets not pretend you dont need a bit of luck along the way.
i'm sorry, but i wholeheartedly disagree with practically every word written there.Theres also much more to becoming successful than just working hard. Millions work hard every day but get nowhere, so lets not pretend you dont need a bit of luck along the way.
if you've got money you're fine??
jaedba2604 said:
if you've got money you're fine??
The only problems rich people have are ones they create for themselves. With bank balances like that, you have no right to moan about anything really. Like I said, most problems in this World are down to money, so if you've got money you can rise above most problems experienced by most people.martin84 said:
jaedba2604 said:
if you've got money you're fine??
The only problems rich people have are ones they create for themselves. With bank balances like that, you have no right to moan about anything really. Like I said, most problems in this World are down to money, so if you've got money you can rise above most problems experienced by most people.jaedba2604 said:
ok mate. i'm out...can't better you!
By disagreeing with every word do you disagree with my assertion that those born into the more wealthy families have a better chance of getting somewhere? I think every study into 'social mobility' or whatever they call it will show that is indeed the case. Pretty obvious really.martin84 said:
jaedba2604 said:
ok mate. i'm out...can't better you!
By disagreeing with every word do you disagree with my assertion that those born into the more wealthy families have a better chance of getting somewhere? I think every study into 'social mobility' or whatever they call it will show that is indeed the case. Pretty obvious really.chance = opportunity
or
chance = probability
?
martin84 said:
jaedba2604 said:
define the word 'chance'?
chance = opportunity
or
chance = probability
?
Probably a bit of both, but mostly opportunity.chance = opportunity
or
chance = probability
?
several years ago, a friend of mine wanted to enrol on a music production course at the local college, despite spaces being available he wasn't allowed to attend as he was in paid employment and the spaces were reserved for job seekers. it is only one example i know, but he was a cashier in a supermarket, and music was a passion of his.
jaedba2604 said:
then i disagree with you. statistically you are correct, they do, but in terms of opportunity i would argue that the lower income is, in some cases, an assistance.
several years ago, a friend of mine wanted to enrol on a music production course at the local college, despite spaces being available he wasn't allowed to attend as he was in paid employment and the spaces were reserved for job seekers. it is only one example i know, but he was a cashier in a supermarket, and music was a passion of his.
It is just one example and its not particularly what I mean. An unemployed person got on a course where as the cashier didn't. What I'm saying is someone born into a rich family, with the best start in life who will probably go to all the fancy schools will most likely earn enough to pay for their own music production course at some point. Thats what I mean.several years ago, a friend of mine wanted to enrol on a music production course at the local college, despite spaces being available he wasn't allowed to attend as he was in paid employment and the spaces were reserved for job seekers. it is only one example i know, but he was a cashier in a supermarket, and music was a passion of his.
The program in question sounds like it was targeted at getting people off job seekers and into education of some sort, it does help massage the unemployment figures. Not really an example of how your background dictates your future success though is it?
Jimbeaux said:
XitUp said:
The difference between rich and poor.
So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
So, you still mean monetary inequality overall? If so, I still disagree. Your example says that peace will reign if everyone in the neighborhood is poor as oppossed to just some. I still say it is down to character and how one is raised. Poor alone does not equate to crime. So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
Nice one
XitUp said:
jaedba2604 said:
of course it could be. it also might be.
redistribution of wealth is not a sustainable economic model in the 21st century, it simply will not work. so please stop banging on about it.
Who is banging on about it?redistribution of wealth is not a sustainable economic model in the 21st century, it simply will not work. so please stop banging on about it.
otherwise, what motivates people? the only equality that will be reached in the long term is the lowest common denominator. the achievers will see no reward in achieving and the non achievers will carry on doing what they do, happy in the knowledge that what is left will be divided evenly throughout society with no real regard for who has got off their arse and earned it.
martin84 said:
Not really an example of how your background dictates your future success though is it?
there are enough examples of people born into not a lot succeeding to contradict this. conversely there are also examples of people born into wealth who've fallen flat on their backside.i found your contention that rich have troubles only of their own making, ignorant at best, distasteful at worst.
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