Please point out a SINGLE (using your favourite capitals for no reason) sentence where I whinge about the political nature of this thread? That was Redvictor that picked up on that; not me.

Here, I've even copied and pasted it -please point out a SINGLE reference to politics:

[i]This very website is chock full of negativity and envy.

It's meant to be a website about enjoying cars, 90% of the time it's some hard up goon trolling every thread in an attempt to make his battered old MX5/Mondeo/Focus/whatever look like it's an Ariel Atom V8.

The genuinely enthusiastic members are all too often drowned out by the green gilled, blame filled Daily Mail reading halfwits whose idea of having fun is shooting anyone with an ounce of enthusiasm down in flames.[/i]


Sorry, did you call ME blind?

And you can't even spell inane; you retard.

The fact you go to so much effort to painstakingly put together yet another meaningless response full of waffling attempts at appearing articulate goes to show you are both weak and riled.

Vlad, given your obvious lack of interest in the entire thread and it's lack of motor car content, I must ask- WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?? If you don't like the thread- Foxtrot Oscar elsewhere. Why not initiate a really 'exciting' post about the merits of BMW diesels, or VW camper vans? I am certain that would set the pulse racing of the PH massive. Failing that- just Foxtrot Oscar you pedantic, didactic bore.

That loud banging sound I heard as I read your post, was the sound of the nail being hit squarely on the head. We live in a society were the state has effectively absolved itself of the responsibility for dispensing appropriate punishments to fit the respective crimes. You cannot have a civilised society without some degree of FEAR existing amongst those with a tendancy towards crime. Currently, the penal system in the UK is an utter farse. The state tolerates continual re-offending by a relatively small percentage of people in society. WHY? Answer- MONEY. Successive UK governments have been increasingly reluctant to spend the requisite amount of money on law & order. Jailing people costs a large amount of money. Weak, spineless UK politicians increasingly hide behind 'liberal' arguments that, "Jail is not about punishment, but rehabilitation." What nonsense. Just take a look at the rate of re-offending- prison clearly does NOT rehabilitate criminals. For the most part, politicians exist in a bubble- they don't have to live in close proximity to thieving scum who make their lives a misery.

I am all too well aware by virtue of my job, that there is little, if any fear of the consequences amongst the residivists. Being arrested and banged up in a cell for hours, is nothing more than a minor incovenience-an occupational hazard. The courts are held in complete contempt, criminals know they are VERY UNLIKELY to be handed a custodial sentence. Even if they do get a short term in prison, they automatically receive 50% remission off their sentence. The prisons are like hotels, three squares a day, free gym, pool, TV & PSP3's in the cells. Plenty of access to drugs, illicit mobile phones etc.

Many people live their lives in a bubble, for the most part, they have no real idea at the TRUE woeful state of British society. It is rotten to the core. We have a burgeoning underclass who milk the benefit system, and have no intention of seeking gainful employment. For the most part, most of these people are devoid of ANY moral values. Most of them do not even respect themselves, so how can we expect them to respect others? They have no concept of being part of a community, with a responsibility to others around them. Myopic fools like Gordon Brown refer to these people as being, "Excluded from society." The fact is, these people ACTIVELY CHOOSE to exclude themselves from society. They have no work ethic, no sense of responsibility and no values. Our benefits system offers the lazy & feckless with the opportunity to live off the state. We provide free housing, benefits galore, motability cars, an 'Army' of Social Workers are on standby to pander to the needs of the inadequate, morally bankrupt underclass. WE ARE INVESTING IN & REINFORCING FAILURE.

It's about time people in the UK woke up and smelt the coffee. The UK is one of the most unpleasant developed countries to reside in. The quality of life is garbage compared to many mainland European countries. We endure a huge Tax burden, ridiculously expensive housing, fuel & general cost of living. We are an over crowded little island- a rats nest- with a population more than TWICE the ideal given our land mass. We have pretty much the same population as France, but they have five times the land mass-far less crowding=Higher Quality Of Life.

Arrogant British politicians constantly crow that "WE" possess "The Best," healthcare system, Police Force- (sorry- 'service,' force is far too 'aggressive.') Armed Forces etc etc. The fact is we simply DO NOT. The NHS is falling apart at the seams, grossly inefficient, over burdened, the Police service has lost it's sense of direction and is grossly under resourced, hog tied with an unbelievable amount of red tape. The Armed Forces are now the smallest they have been for a century. The Royal Navy has no aircraft carriers, the surface fleet is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago. The British Army is TINY, totally over stretched, under resourced, over committed. Most of our institutions are living off a reputation for excellence they had many years ago. To put it bluntly, as a nation, WE ARE ALL FUR COAT AND NO KNICKERS!

It's about time British politicians & PEOPLE faced reality. British society is broken, a complete cesspit-anything goes, IE How many people on PH consider it perfectly acceptable to treat themselves to a couple of lines of coke on a Friday night out? Quite a few I suspect....Until we have a penal system that places the emphasis on PUNISHMENT, not 'REHABILITATION,' things will continue to deteriorate.

LAST ONE OUT THE UK- TURN THE LIGHTS OFF.

You actually read it? I skipped it.

PH, Daily Mail bullst matters.

Sure. Your post was ill informed right wing retoric, like that peddled by said 'news' paper.
For starters, you, like many on PH, don't know what socialism is.

Ah, you meant the type of socialism that cosies up to big business and increases the gap between rich and poor? That type of socialism?

Sorry for the typo.

p.s. did they not teach you about capital letters on your economics degree?