Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?
Discussion
martin84 said:
Jimbeaux said:
On the overall, I believe no.
Been pretty static in Afghanistan for a while too. Must mean its perfectly safe.I get the distinct impression that you are trying to drive a full sized intellect before being properly licensed.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 24th May 19:45
KB_S1 said:
Jimbeaux said:
I said that about the U.K.'s crime rate when I asked Martin to explain that as only crooks have guns, 
Ah, right. But the UK crime rate is dropping, has been for a while.martin84 said:
Surely statistics on vandalism against wealthy peoples cars would be more relevent to judging the difference between the UK and Germany on this matter?
Plenty get murdered in the Congo, not because they're jealous of peoples cars mind.
This thread seems to have gone wildly off tangant, so i'm not going to try and pull it back fully.Plenty get murdered in the Congo, not because they're jealous of peoples cars mind.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
Jimbeaux said:
KB_S1 said:
Jimbeaux said:
I said that about the U.K.'s crime rate when I asked Martin to explain that as only crooks have guns,
Ah, right. But the UK crime rate is dropping, has been for a while.this is exactly the british perception of our own country I mentioned previously.
TTwiggy said:
And yet the Americans pursue a rigorous ban on certain narcotics...
Prohibition doesn't work, but we can't just blame the yanks for it. Most countries have the same stupid laws on drugs.Jimbeaux said:
I appreciate your thoughtful response but I must take issue with a couple of points. First, black on black crime is at an all time high, not sure why you would think that the 80s and 90s was a peak. Secondly, to simply say that the income gap is responsible is not entirely true. There are many lower income communities that do not have high crime rates. The high crime rates fall into those communities that glorifies a culture of violence through dress, music, etc. as something to be respected, have 90% single mother households, and do not foster a sense of community.
Really? Can you give me a link to the stats please. I know that black men are far more likely to be murdered than any other demographic but I didn't realise that it was going up again. That's pretty sad.Notice that I didn't say more poverty = more crime. It's not about income, it's about inequality.
jaedba2604 said:
i'm not missing the point.
1) if it is your opinion, please state it thus. interpretation of facts is opinion, not fact.
2) it doesn't upset me, i am not disputing the gap between wealth is correlated to gun crime, it was me who made that point iirc, my problem is with how you deal with the wealth gap, that was the whole nub of my post. your politics merely papers over the cracks (or gaps if you prefer), my contention suggests dealing with the underlying cause, and the attitudes which create a wealth gap, and then resent that gap that they have created.
i do not really need to read your academic out takes.
every time you pop up i am reminded of that scene in good will hunting, in the bar, where some smug t
t keeps regurgitating passages from text books without any consideration whatsoever for their application, or really giving it any thought. he ended up looking silly too.
if you wish to attempt to earn your intellectual stripes by posting one dimensional responses on an internet forum, then i hope it works for you. i cannot question your self confidence, and that, in some ways, is admirable.
You are missing the point and you're not as clever as you like to think.1) if it is your opinion, please state it thus. interpretation of facts is opinion, not fact.
2) it doesn't upset me, i am not disputing the gap between wealth is correlated to gun crime, it was me who made that point iirc, my problem is with how you deal with the wealth gap, that was the whole nub of my post. your politics merely papers over the cracks (or gaps if you prefer), my contention suggests dealing with the underlying cause, and the attitudes which create a wealth gap, and then resent that gap that they have created.
i do not really need to read your academic out takes.
every time you pop up i am reminded of that scene in good will hunting, in the bar, where some smug t
t keeps regurgitating passages from text books without any consideration whatsoever for their application, or really giving it any thought. he ended up looking silly too.if you wish to attempt to earn your intellectual stripes by posting one dimensional responses on an internet forum, then i hope it works for you. i cannot question your self confidence, and that, in some ways, is admirable.
1) I haven't stated any opinions on the subject, just facts.
2) What are my politics?
Every time you pop I'm reminded of nothing as I don't know who you are. It's cute that you remember me though. xo
Efbe said:
This thread seems to have gone wildly off tangant, so i'm not going to try and pull it back fully.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
XitUp said:
TTwiggy said:
And yet the Americans pursue a rigorous ban on certain narcotics...
Prohibition doesn't work, but we can't just blame the yanks for it. Most countries have the same stupid laws on drugs.Jimbeaux said:
I appreciate your thoughtful response but I must take issue with a couple of points. First, black on black crime is at an all time high, not sure why you would think that the 80s and 90s was a peak. Secondly, to simply say that the income gap is responsible is not entirely true. There are many lower income communities that do not have high crime rates. The high crime rates fall into those communities that glorifies a culture of violence through dress, music, etc. as something to be respected, have 90% single mother households, and do not foster a sense of community.
Really? Can you give me a link to the stats please. I know that black men are far more likely to be murdered than any other demographic but I didn't realise that it was going up again. That's pretty sad.Notice that I didn't say more poverty = more crime. It's not about income, it's about inequality.
jaedba2604 said:
i'm not missing the point.
1) if it is your opinion, please state it thus. interpretation of facts is opinion, not fact.
2) it doesn't upset me, i am not disputing the gap between wealth is correlated to gun crime, it was me who made that point iirc, my problem is with how you deal with the wealth gap, that was the whole nub of my post. your politics merely papers over the cracks (or gaps if you prefer), my contention suggests dealing with the underlying cause, and the attitudes which create a wealth gap, and then resent that gap that they have created.
i do not really need to read your academic out takes.
every time you pop up i am reminded of that scene in good will hunting, in the bar, where some smug tt keeps regurgitating passages from text books without any consideration whatsoever for their application, or really giving it any thought. he ended up looking silly too.
if you wish to attempt to earn your intellectual stripes by posting one dimensional responses on an internet forum, then i hope it works for you. i cannot question your self confidence, and that, in some ways, is admirable.
You are missing the point and you're not as clever as you like to think.1) if it is your opinion, please state it thus. interpretation of facts is opinion, not fact.
2) it doesn't upset me, i am not disputing the gap between wealth is correlated to gun crime, it was me who made that point iirc, my problem is with how you deal with the wealth gap, that was the whole nub of my post. your politics merely papers over the cracks (or gaps if you prefer), my contention suggests dealing with the underlying cause, and the attitudes which create a wealth gap, and then resent that gap that they have created.
i do not really need to read your academic out takes.
every time you pop up i am reminded of that scene in good will hunting, in the bar, where some smug t
t keeps regurgitating passages from text books without any consideration whatsoever for their application, or really giving it any thought. he ended up looking silly too.if you wish to attempt to earn your intellectual stripes by posting one dimensional responses on an internet forum, then i hope it works for you. i cannot question your self confidence, and that, in some ways, is admirable.
1) I haven't stated any opinions on the subject, just facts.
2) What are my politics?
Every time you pop I'm reminded of nothing as I don't know who you are. It's cute that you remember me though. xo
Efbe said:
This thread seems to have gone wildly off tangant, so i'm not going to try and pull it back fully.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
XitUp said:
The difference between rich and poor.
So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
So, you still mean monetary inequality overall? If so, I still disagree. Your example says that peace will reign if everyone in the neighborhood is poor as oppossed to just some. I still say it is down to character and how one is raised. Poor alone does not equate to crime. So, if everyone in place A has a low income, and some people in place B have a high income and some a low income, place B will have higher crime rates. Broadly speaking.
markcoznottz said:
KB_S1 said:
Nah, UK crime rate lowest since modern records began in 1981.
Newlab changed the Way crime stats were reported and collated, twice in fact, deliberately some would say, it made retrospective comparisons of crime rates utterly meaningless. tty.Jimbeaux said:
So, you still mean monetary inequality overall? If so, I still disagree.
You disagree with the statistics?Why?
Jimbeaux said:
Your example says that peace will reign if everyone in the neighborhood is poor as oppossed to just some.
No it doesn't.Jimbeaux said:
I still say it is down to character and how one is raised.
Partly, yes.Jimbeaux said:
Poor alone does not equate to crime.
Yes, that's what I was saying...XitUp said:
Efbe said:
This thread seems to have gone wildly off tangant, so i'm not going to try and pull it back fully.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
Going back to vandalism comments, and anyone trying to say Germany is better than britain for vandalism. This is obviously incorrect as Germany is the cause of all vandalism, and can be absolutely proven.
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