RE: PH liveblog: flat out with Jag
Discussion
JonyTVR said:
I dont know which is worse, the know it all knob who actually knows nothing, or the ones who rise to him and get all angry at his obvious wind ups.
anyway cracking car! love the latest Jags.
Hardly a wind up, I voivced an oppinion on the car which turned into a bit of a debate/rant. Throwing out insults and commenting on the whole thing, arent you just as bad?anyway cracking car! love the latest Jags.
I had a little time to wander so I checked out the current line up in the Berkeley St franchise. My god that XJ is a nice place to be whatever seat you are in. Most cars I look in through the window and think dull so i don't bother. This gave me a big cuddle as soon as I got in and it felt purposeful.
JulesB said:
CraigVmax said:
oh..and..
Because they all look like this? I was commenting on Jags of past, always looked naff and thats just tainted the look of all of their products for me.which doesnt mention Jags of the past, the whole topic is based on a current Jag also, maybe everyone else here got it wrong.
JulesB said:
Because they all look like this? .
The new ones do, yes. In fact they have for a couple of years now. The XKRSS i drove had nicer bucket seats than a Porsche GT3.
I think you just have to fess up here pal. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. And talking b
ks in a more assertive way is all well and good. But its still b
ks.Edited for nice picture of a Jaguar that is not all pipe and slippers and demonstrates how JulesB does not know what he is blathering on about..
Edited by toppstuff on Friday 4th May 14:05
And here is something else for the resident fool..
The new 5.0 V8 Jaguar engine in its supercharged form. More than 520bhp. Few mass produced engines are as good.
A fabulous, efficient, grunty engine. Better than an Aston V8 by miles.
If it was an AMG engine people would be shouting from the roof tops about it.
It will send the car (XF, XJ or XK) sideways at any opportunity and yet in daily use it does 25mpg ( not much less than the Pistonheads fleet Golf GTI).
It is a much, much, much better V8 than the one Porsche use.
And yet, somehow, you think a fking Mondeo is relavent to the conversation?
All you have shown is that your car knowledge needs a lot of work.
Go back and earn your PH stripes, fella. Come back when you know what you are talking about.
The new 5.0 V8 Jaguar engine in its supercharged form. More than 520bhp. Few mass produced engines are as good.
A fabulous, efficient, grunty engine. Better than an Aston V8 by miles.
If it was an AMG engine people would be shouting from the roof tops about it.
It will send the car (XF, XJ or XK) sideways at any opportunity and yet in daily use it does 25mpg ( not much less than the Pistonheads fleet Golf GTI).
It is a much, much, much better V8 than the one Porsche use.
And yet, somehow, you think a f
king Mondeo is relavent to the conversation?All you have shown is that your car knowledge needs a lot of work.
Go back and earn your PH stripes, fella. Come back when you know what you are talking about.
Edited by toppstuff on Friday 4th May 14:18
toppstuff said:
And here is something else for the resident fool..
The new 5.0 V8 Jaguar engine in its supercharged form. More than 520bhp. Few mass produced engines are as good.
A fabulous, efficient, grunty engine. Better than an Aston V8 by miles.
If it was an AMG engine people would be shouting from the roof tops about it.
It will send the car (XF, XJ or XK) sideways at any opportunity and yet in daily use it does 25mpg ( not much less than the Pistonheads fleet Golf GTI).
It is a much, much, much better V8 than the one Porsche use.
And yet, somehow, you think a fking Mondeo is relavent to the conversation?
All you have shown is that your car knowledge needs a lot of work.
Go back and earn your PH stripes, fella. Come back when you know what you are talking about.
The mondeo gag was aimed at the old jags, had nothing to do with the engines, I feel like im repeating myself but you are taking this out of context.The new 5.0 V8 Jaguar engine in its supercharged form. More than 520bhp. Few mass produced engines are as good.
A fabulous, efficient, grunty engine. Better than an Aston V8 by miles.
If it was an AMG engine people would be shouting from the roof tops about it.
It will send the car (XF, XJ or XK) sideways at any opportunity and yet in daily use it does 25mpg ( not much less than the Pistonheads fleet Golf GTI).
It is a much, much, much better V8 than the one Porsche use.
And yet, somehow, you think a f
king Mondeo is relavent to the conversation?All you have shown is that your car knowledge needs a lot of work.
Go back and earn your PH stripes, fella. Come back when you know what you are talking about.
Edited by toppstuff on Friday 4th May 14:18
No matter how much you gusy rant about how great you think the new jags are and why you think they are better than their competitors it comes down to opinion at the end of the day. If it was an AMG engine, it would probably be better
Opinions are easy to have. But if they are not based on fact, or experience, or they are based in ignorance , then they should be challenged.
Believe me, I was not bothered about Jaguars either.
But having ragged some around Thruxton race track I think they deserve defending. They are excellent cars. Easily the equal of their German competitors.
The supercharged V8 is a monster engine and the cars themselves are a long way away from the old image from the past.
Idiotic jibes about X types are just that - idiotic.
Believe me, I was not bothered about Jaguars either.
But having ragged some around Thruxton race track I think they deserve defending. They are excellent cars. Easily the equal of their German competitors.
The supercharged V8 is a monster engine and the cars themselves are a long way away from the old image from the past.
Idiotic jibes about X types are just that - idiotic.
I popped my Jaguar cherry yesterday when I accompanied Dan on the Jag 'do'. It was my day off, so it would be rude not wander over.
I had never driven a modern Jaguar because they have automatic 'boxes and they didn't 'do it' for me.
What a bloody idiot I was... both the cars I drove around the Nordschleife were magnificent. XFR and XJ L Supersport. Lots of great steering feel, marvelous body control and a brilliant combo of engine, box and diff.
They get two thumbs up from me, and I'd easily choose one over a new 5-er or 6-er, whereas BEFORE I'd driven the Jags, I wouldn't have thought twice about taking the BMW option.
I had never driven a modern Jaguar because they have automatic 'boxes and they didn't 'do it' for me.
What a bloody idiot I was... both the cars I drove around the Nordschleife were magnificent. XFR and XJ L Supersport. Lots of great steering feel, marvelous body control and a brilliant combo of engine, box and diff.
They get two thumbs up from me, and I'd easily choose one over a new 5-er or 6-er, whereas BEFORE I'd driven the Jags, I wouldn't have thought twice about taking the BMW option.
toppstuff said:
Opinions are easy to have. But if they are not based on fact, or experience, or they are based in ignorance , then they should be challenged.
Believe me, I was not bothered about Jaguars either.
But having ragged some around Thruxton race track I think they deserve defending. They are excellent cars. Easily the equal of their German competitors.
The supercharged V8 is a monster engine and the cars themselves are a long way away from the old image from the past.
Idiotic jibes about X types are just that - idiotic.
Fair point, but I cant bring myself to like them, maybe it would be different given the chance to throw one around the track but as it stands im not a fan at the moment.Believe me, I was not bothered about Jaguars either.
But having ragged some around Thruxton race track I think they deserve defending. They are excellent cars. Easily the equal of their German competitors.
The supercharged V8 is a monster engine and the cars themselves are a long way away from the old image from the past.
Idiotic jibes about X types are just that - idiotic.
JulesB said:
The mondeo gag was aimed at the old jags, had nothing to do with the engines, I feel like im repeating myself but you are taking this out of context.
No matter how much you gusy rant about how great you think the new jags are and why you think they are better than their competitors it comes down to opinion at the end of the day. If it was an AMG engine, it would probably be better
Absolutely.No matter how much you gusy rant about how great you think the new jags are and why you think they are better than their competitors it comes down to opinion at the end of the day. If it was an AMG engine, it would probably be better
Your opinion just happens to be a bit daft.
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