I don't see the problem with race cars ( that BM does not exactly look like a WTC to me anyway... ) and road cars sharing the track, especially if they run numberplates and street tyres. Some genuine road cars are very fast, some race cars are very slow in comparision. The bigger problem is idiot drivers who get a buzz from overtaking dangeously. You see it all the time on trackdays, guys who dont have the bottle to race and spend VAST sums of money to be the fastest guy on a trackday and do about 20 events per year. For fks sake, go racing. I prepare to be humbled. The fact that this particular driver seemed fit t spill fluids all over the ring rather than pay a recovery cost, probobly sums him up as a bit or a spoon.

Shock! Some one crashes as the Nurburgring.
The hole point of the place is that is dangerous and alluring. I'm worried articles like this will end in the health and saftey police turning it into another single file, no over taking bore fest.

If the car was road legal it's a road car. I'd be very surprised if a race driver managed to crash of his own accord on a TF day unless he lacked experience. Most racers I've met are excellent drivers and use track days for bedding in and light testing; not balls out 10/10ths work.

Agree totally


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZ3Rbhui7c&fea...

I cant see the point in this article.

Its always easy to blame a group of guys, but it was just ONE idiot.

I live 1hour away from the ring and i think its always a problem of behavior.

There are hundreds of highly tuned cars (like mine) which drive around and cause no problems at all, and theres the same number of normal cars which arent bad either.

Its always those 1 or 2 idiots who cant behave, and it doesnt matter what car theyre using.

Know ur car, the track and the traffic and everythings fine.

This sounds like one numpty with too much money who thinks he is a racing driver - but would probably never attain a competition licence in a month of Sundays.

A true racer knows full well that there is no merit is dragging a crippled car 6Km (unless it's an enduro) because a) it could cause further damage to your own car, and b) you leave all kinds of greasy liquids all over the circuit causing a danger to othe drivers.

You pull over instantly, well off the circuit and wait for a recovery vehicle.

This guy is just an ase who would probably crash a milk float; so the type of car is irrelevant. After all he could have turned up with std road going Ferrari and caused the same mayhem.

Hope your friend is ok.

I've been going to the Ring for 8 years but pretty much watched it decline year on year. I have had a number of close calls due to a number of people having absolutley no idea how to drive at all. People say its dangerous and exciting but when someone just moves into the side of your car at 130mph, it can get you killed.

I'm going again on the weekend but won't be driving on the track, its very much a place to quit whilst your ahead.

So Dr. Stein Tveten has a doctorate in stupid behaviour or what?


No matter what, ANY driver doing this silly, and ruining things for other people because of their own selfishness, should be banned there. THe fact he drives in the VLN makes it even worse for me. There IS already a lot less time to drive on TF days there, and then ONE as...le ruins that day for everyone else...

Agree, article does seem to be a bit "biased" due to a friend being involved, but the selfish behaviour from that "Doctor"... tssssk

I don't really like this attitude. I would be extremely sad if the people reading and posting here could honestly say that they've never pushed it on a track day to a point they could have potentially damaged their car!

I relatively recently discovered track days as a way to clearly define a line between road driving and my passion for cars. It has made a huge difference to the way I drive on the road and within a few laps on a track I tend to forget about insignificant worries such as preserving the car/rules and find myself barely aware of anything except the thrill of driving. On a good day I feel nothing except the thrill of being 'on it' and worry about the warped disks/oil leaks and bent gear linkage later when the bill comes through.

I don't wish to destroy my car (nor does anyone) so to an extent everyone allows what they feel to be reasonable margin of safety but when I take my car on a track I accept that risk that I or someone else may get carried away or be unlucky, there may be a patch of oil or a mechanical failure and an accident might occur. It's a risk everyone there takes and I'm not going to be bitter if it does hapen.

If I see someone driving nervously I'll give them space, if I see someone who's really driving 'the race is on' We're all there for the same reason and the times/places we can indulge in the passion of driving are getting harder and harder to find.

I say stop winging and start enjoying yourself or leave and let live.

What a biased and spiteful article. I can nearly smell the author's bile from here.